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HyperTek · 04-24-2005, 05:43 PM

Wassup guys! Well just doin some maintanence on my car and got the thinking, about if running a strut brace under the car where the tow hooks are, in order to support them since this area is pretty weak and prone to split like mine and numerous other s13s ive seen... well heres the idea, run fat ass washers/bolts on the end of the strut brace to clamp them down. Wouldnt be as nice as say Silk Road's tension rod brace, but Id figure it would help somewhat at only the cost of a strut bar. Heres what Im talking about. I might try it if I can find the right size bolts.

chlatboy · 04-24-2005, 05:55 PM

Not bad, tell us how it drives once you find ur bolts!!

projectRDM · 04-24-2005, 05:59 PM

Not as much of a flex point as further back, but SilkRoad, Section, and STR all make adjustable bars so you'd have to think they're doing it for a reason.

tokes¹ · 04-24-2005, 07:24 PM

interesting....yea let us know how it handles after you find those bolts

HyperTek · 04-24-2005, 09:11 PM

dam went to lowes and home depot and couldnt find the bolt.. its bigger then m16... im thinking m17 if those exist.. gotta find who might have em. Im only havin this problem cuz my strut bar is a hippo sleek jdm piece (simular to the old cuscos etc.)

maybe an ebay bar uses smaller diameter bolts...

raen419 · 04-24-2005, 10:18 PM

um, isn't the nismo power brace similar to that, or is it just the angle i'm looking at it from?

MakotoS13 · 04-24-2005, 10:37 PM

isn't the nismo power brace just a bar welded to two existing parts? i may just weld some tubing on my heap.

Wei240 · 04-25-2005, 12:01 AM

power brace is one of the better braces for the fronts, and with other types of braces, it's more closer to the tension rod area,
from the pic above, i think it's further up front...

or, how about going to home depot/lowes and fab one of those tension braces?

raen419 · 04-25-2005, 01:37 AM

the nismo brace is reinforced where the cross bar meets the tension rod support pieces (forget what they're called) in a sort of boxed configuration on both sides (man, my lack of vocabulary is killing me right now...).
i'm thinking im going to do my own too. esp since the power brace is like $180 most places, and it's definitely overpriced (as is most nismo stuff, eventhough it's good quality).

Maeda · 04-25-2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

isn't the nismo power brace just a bar welded to two existing parts? i may just weld some tubing on my heap.

Bingo! You are correct Makoto.

Just box in those things and weld a bar inbetween and you have a nismo power brace.

Flybert · 04-25-2005, 03:57 AM

Did somebody say homemade nismo powerbrace? Free DIY shit is the best. It's been working great for a year now.

sticky240 · 04-25-2005, 04:10 AM

<---- needs to learn to weld or make friends with someone who already knows how

cool stuff Flybert

MakotoS13 · 04-25-2005, 07:22 AM

i've actually been thinking of doin this for quite some time. the nismo price really isn't bad considering how much work it'd take to duplicate it (like 150-180?) but if you do it yourself that'd make it easier to get those neons you've always been after.

that reminds me, i need to get a welding machine.

HyperTek · 04-28-2005, 09:00 PM

Ill see what happens... soo far soo good.. it makes perfect sense. Some s13s split at this part, so its holding it (in my case pulling it together). And tow hooks are suppose to be strong enough to pull a car from, so bracing it will be ok.

No real driving impressions til I do my brakes. Not really for a performance aspect, but just to make it more solid.

smellslikecurry · 04-28-2005, 09:52 PM

nice nice...i have an ebay strut bar jst sitting in my room...i have no use for it so i imight as well try this!!! zilvia needs more people like you...

blitz180 · 04-29-2005, 12:52 AM

I see I'm not the only one who welded their own "nismo" power brace... had my grandpa weld it while i was doing the swap... just showed him picks and we had scrap laying around to do it with.

North240 · 04-29-2005, 09:52 AM

Is that legal for SCCA auto-x events? Are you allowed to modify like that, looks good, i would love to give it a shot.

kandyflip445 · 04-29-2005, 11:04 AM

It puts you in a higher class cause it ties the frame rails together.

MakotoS13 · 04-29-2005, 11:30 AM

i'm going to cut a piece of 1/4 inch steel and weld it on the lower radiator support to prevent this "splitting" and cause it seems to be a good spot to jack up the car if it just had more support to keep it from bending.

HyperTek · 04-29-2005, 06:42 PM

hehe dam makoto your car looks hot now man!!

tomenugen · 04-29-2005, 09:20 PM

too bad the driver's still an ass

*Inland180* · 04-29-2005, 10:32 PM

[/QUOTE]
Looks pretty good...all it needs is some paint and it would look realy clean.

MakotoS13 · 04-29-2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomenugen

too bad the driver's still an ass

yeah but i'll be danged if he dont have a sexy as hell G ride.

*Inland180* · 07-13-2005, 09:10 PM

so what were the driving impressions of this home made masterpiece???????

kandyflip445 · 07-14-2005, 04:25 AM

lol. I'd imagine the same as a Nismo Power Brace.

Wei240 · 07-14-2005, 11:19 AM

yes, that is exactly what the nismo power brace is, a piece of metal welded on those 2 pieces

so turning is more responsive, less chassis flex...

sLiDewAys · 07-14-2005, 11:51 AM

i think this idea has alraedy been covered with the front lADDAR BAR which braces the front lower frame rails.

aghhh more chucks of metal that ppl say seem to make a difference, get some sway bars coil overs and a cage then call it a day.

brandon

kandyflip445 · 07-14-2005, 02:09 PM

Some people don't want a cage

This keeps it on the outside of the car and doesn't hurt ground clearance either. I find it funny that these braces DO help. Even though the crossmember is like 2 feet behind the power brace and the ladder bar goes about 2 feet behind that. Go figure.

JDMs13 · 07-14-2005, 02:55 PM

FLYBERT....I thought I was the only one who ever conjured up boxing the LCA's. You must have tapped in to my brain waves and stole my idea.

HyperTek · 07-14-2005, 05:08 PM

+1 Home Depot SPL

yah this chit works.. these have survived a curb.. nuff said

04-24-2005, 05:43 PM	#1
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 11,424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Possible front chassis brace... ideas.. Wassup guys! Well just doin some maintanence on my car and got the thinking, about if running a strut brace under the car where the tow hooks are, in order to support them since this area is pretty weak and prone to split like mine and numerous other s13s ive seen... well heres the idea, run fat ass washers/bolts on the end of the strut brace to clamp them down. Wouldnt be as nice as say Silk Road's tension rod brace, but Id figure it would help somewhat at only the cost of a strut bar. Heres what Im talking about. I might try it if I can find the right size bolts. __________________

04-24-2005, 05:55 PM	#2
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,250 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not bad, tell us how it drives once you find ur bolts!! __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

04-24-2005, 05:59 PM	#3
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 36 Posts: 13,673 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Not as much of a flex point as further back, but SilkRoad, Section, and STR all make adjustable bars so you'd have to think they're doing it for a reason. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

04-24-2005, 09:11 PM	#5
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 11,424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dam went to lowes and home depot and couldnt find the bolt.. its bigger then m16... im thinking m17 if those exist.. gotta find who might have em. Im only havin this problem cuz my strut bar is a hippo sleek jdm piece (simular to the old cuscos etc.) maybe an ebay bar uses smaller diameter bolts... __________________

04-25-2005, 03:57 AM	#11
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Socal Age: 29 Posts: 3,783 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Did somebody say homemade nismo powerbrace? Free DIY shit is the best. It's been working great for a year now. __________________ Citytire Online -They support us so we should support them

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04-24-2005, 07:24 PM	#4
tokes¹ Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	interesting....yea let us know how it handles after you find those bolts

04-24-2005, 10:18 PM	#6
raen419 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pinson/Trussville, AL Age: 27 Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	um, isn't the nismo power brace similar to that, or is it just the angle i'm looking at it from?

04-24-2005, 10:37 PM	#7
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 27 Posts: 4,206 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	isn't the nismo power brace just a bar welded to two existing parts? i may just weld some tubing on my heap.

04-25-2005, 12:01 AM	#8
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Age: 99 Posts: 1,781 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	power brace is one of the better braces for the fronts, and with other types of braces, it's more closer to the tension rod area, from the pic above, i think it's further up front... or, how about going to home depot/lowes and fab one of those tension braces?

04-25-2005, 01:37 AM	#9
raen419 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pinson/Trussville, AL Age: 27 Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the nismo brace is reinforced where the cross bar meets the tension rod support pieces (forget what they're called) in a sort of boxed configuration on both sides (man, my lack of vocabulary is killing me right now...). i'm thinking im going to do my own too. esp since the power brace is like $180 most places, and it's definitely overpriced (as is most nismo stuff, eventhough it's good quality).

04-25-2005, 04:10 AM	#12
sticky240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Age: 28 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<---- needs to learn to weld or make friends with someone who already knows how cool stuff Flybert __________________ Guh-Noo-Beez

04-25-2005, 07:22 AM	#13
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 27 Posts: 4,206 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've actually been thinking of doin this for quite some time. the nismo price really isn't bad considering how much work it'd take to duplicate it (like 150-180?) but if you do it yourself that'd make it easier to get those neons you've always been after. that reminds me, i need to get a welding machine.

04-28-2005, 09:00 PM	#14
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 11,424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ill see what happens... soo far soo good.. it makes perfect sense. Some s13s split at this part, so its holding it (in my case pulling it together). And tow hooks are suppose to be strong enough to pull a car from, so bracing it will be ok. No real driving impressions til I do my brakes. Not really for a performance aspect, but just to make it more solid. __________________

04-28-2005, 09:52 PM	#15
smellslikecurry Post Whore! Join Date: May 2003 Location: bangladesh Age: 24 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	nice nice...i have an ebay strut bar jst sitting in my room...i have no use for it so i imight as well try this!!! zilvia needs more people like you...

04-29-2005, 12:52 AM	#16
blitz180 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ashland, Ky Age: 27 Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I see I'm not the only one who welded their own "nismo" power brace... had my grandpa weld it while i was doing the swap... just showed him picks and we had scrap laying around to do it with.

04-29-2005, 09:52 AM	#17
North240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, MAINE Age: 28 Posts: 350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is that legal for SCCA auto-x events? Are you allowed to modify like that, looks good, i would love to give it a shot. __________________ ROUND 2

04-29-2005, 11:04 AM	#18
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 25 Posts: 4,303 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It puts you in a higher class cause it ties the frame rails together. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

04-29-2005, 11:30 AM	#19
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 27 Posts: 4,206 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm going to cut a piece of 1/4 inch steel and weld it on the lower radiator support to prevent this "splitting" and cause it seems to be a good spot to jack up the car if it just had more support to keep it from bending.

04-29-2005, 06:42 PM	#20
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 11,424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hehe dam makoto your car looks hot now man!! __________________

04-29-2005, 09:20 PM	#21
tomenugen Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose/Irvine Age: 27 Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	too bad the driver's still an ass

04-29-2005, 10:32 PM	#22
Inland180 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,547 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	[/QUOTE] Looks pretty good...all it needs is some paint and it would look realy clean. __________________ GT30R Full Race Twin Scroll FTW!

07-13-2005, 09:10 PM	#24
Inland180 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,547 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	so what were the driving impressions of this home made masterpiece??????? __________________ GT30R Full Race Twin Scroll FTW!

07-14-2005, 04:25 AM	#25
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 25 Posts: 4,303 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	lol. I'd imagine the same as a Nismo Power Brace. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

07-14-2005, 11:19 AM	#26
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Age: 99 Posts: 1,781 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes, that is exactly what the nismo power brace is, a piece of metal welded on those 2 pieces so turning is more responsive, less chassis flex...

07-14-2005, 11:51 AM	#27
sLiDewAys Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Salinas, CA 831 Age: 25 Posts: 1,635 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i think this idea has alraedy been covered with the front lADDAR BAR which braces the front lower frame rails. aghhh more chucks of metal that ppl say seem to make a difference, get some sway bars coil overs and a cage then call it a day. brandon

07-14-2005, 02:09 PM	#28
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 25 Posts: 4,303 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Some people don't want a cage This keeps it on the outside of the car and doesn't hurt ground clearance either. I find it funny that these braces DO help. Even though the crossmember is like 2 feet behind the power brace and the ladder bar goes about 2 feet behind that. Go figure. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

07-14-2005, 02:55 PM	#29
JDMs13 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New England Age: 26 Posts: 271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FLYBERT....I thought I was the only one who ever conjured up boxing the LCA's. You must have tapped in to my brain waves and stole my idea.

07-14-2005, 05:08 PM	#30
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 11,424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 Home Depot SPL yah this chit works.. these have survived a curb.. nuff said __________________

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