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racepar1 · 03-28-2008, 04:26 PM

I am doing a ca18 swap for my buddy and his clip came with the early (non-digital) climate control. I want to put the climate control in his fastback, but I wanna use a digital unit. Does the wiring and sensors crossover directly from the early climate control to the digital one or do I need a new harness? I have all the harnesses and the control unit for the early climate control, I have found a DCC control unit for really cheap, and I have found plenty of write-ups on the DCC install so I just need to know if the wiring and sensors would crossover from the early one to the DCC unit.

*NemeGuero* · 03-28-2008, 04:31 PM

I think that there are sensors involved with the digital climate control that don't exist on the older ones.. such as in-cabin temp and a few others.

doesn't the write-up detail what you need?

Ragnarok043 · 03-28-2008, 04:54 PM

you definitely need the DCC harness, it converts the standard harness to the DCC and it has the connectors for the additional sensors such as the sun load sensor, cabin temp sensor and the air mix motor.

Jtuned_andy · 03-28-2008, 04:55 PM

Start pulling your buddies clip apart looking for all the appropriate sensors, there is a list in all the FAQ's I found on the net. If you are missing sensors try contacting Kaizouten at:

[email protected]

Om1kron · 03-28-2008, 05:03 PM

I read the faq for that and I think I like the analog just fine lol. Granted the digital would be cool it's a whole lot of work and old wires to fiddle with.

racepar1 · 03-28-2008, 05:03 PM

It has the sunload sensor and the vent temp sensor that mounts in the little tube for sure.

EDIT: I just checked the write-up and it appears that all the necessary sensors and parts are there. Will it plug in though? Do all the sensors operate the same? I would think so but I would like an experienced opinion.

Om1kron · 03-28-2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

It has the sunload sensor and the vent temp sensor that mounts in the little tube for sure.

EDIT: I just checked the write-up and it appears that all the necessary sensors and parts are there. Will it plug in though? Do all the sensors operate the same? I would think so but I would like an experienced opinion.

Not a lot of people here have done the conversion from what I've searched, I think your best bet is hitting up the member "broadway" i think it is, he has the conversion done in his car and probably could best tell you from "experience"

rongfk · 03-28-2008, 07:31 PM

i got what you need. take a look.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=173392
you can find the digital units from 25-50 bucks. so all you need is the unit, sub-harness, and some of the things that i have. you already have the rest.

racepar1 · 03-28-2008, 09:56 PM

I have all that stuff from the analog climate control that came in the clip! I already found a digital control unit for cheap as well. What I do need is knowledge on weather or not everything that I DO have crosses over to the digital unit. I would assume that nissan would use all the same stuff in order to cut costs, I just wanna be sure. The way this is going I think I'll just buy the unit and try it.

Ragnarok043 · 03-29-2008, 05:15 AM

in that case if the connector fits the DCC unit, then you should be fine. just make sure you have all the correct sensors and connectors to plug them into. for me the hardest part was installing the linkage arm to the air mix door, mounting the air mix motor and chopping the blower speed sensor fins.

racepar1 · 03-29-2008, 12:18 PM

^^^ Ya i saw that I would have to build a bracket, but that is no biggie. The unit I found has the pigtails, but no sensors and other wiring so I can for sure make it work. Thakns for the replies guys.

tunedbyjdm · 04-15-2008, 06:36 AM

does your CA18 clip's analog climate control comes with the sun load sensor and airmix motor?

Ca_laurier · 04-15-2008, 07:07 AM

if its an auto climate control unit all you need to do is hook the digital head on to it. I have done it on 2 silvia's and both of them have worked

just make sure you actually have the whole harness

clark · 04-15-2008, 07:12 AM

ok i think i understand your question.

you have a clip that came with one of these (this is what i will be using, i don't care about fancy smancy digital displays)

so you want to know if the harness for this type of control unit will work on the DCC. i've been slowly rewiring mine, and all of the info on the internet seemed to match my harness. if you want i could take pictures or something...PM me if you need something

racepar1 · 04-15-2008, 11:41 AM

^^^That's exactly it! I have decided to just wing it and go for it. The DCC unit came with the pigtails so even if the non-digital unit's connectors don't match I can still wire it up. And I DID remove the ALL of the A/C wiring from the dash harness so anything I need will be there. I honestly won't get to doing this for a while though.

03-28-2008, 04:26 PM	#1
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Early JDM climate control vs digital climate control (s-13) I am doing a ca18 swap for my buddy and his clip came with the early (non-digital) climate control. I want to put the climate control in his fastback, but I wanna use a digital unit. Does the wiring and sensors crossover directly from the early climate control to the digital one or do I need a new harness? I have all the harnesses and the control unit for the early climate control, I have found a DCC control unit for really cheap, and I have found plenty of write-ups on the DCC install so I just need to know if the wiring and sensors would crossover from the early one to the DCC unit.

03-28-2008, 04:31 PM	#2
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 39 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I think that there are sensors involved with the digital climate control that don't exist on the older ones.. such as in-cabin temp and a few others. doesn't the write-up detail what you need? __________________

03-28-2008, 04:55 PM	#4
Jtuned_andy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,083 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: Jtuned_andy Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Start pulling your buddies clip apart looking for all the appropriate sensors, there is a list in all the FAQ's I found on the net. If you are missing sensors try contacting Kaizouten at: [email protected] __________________

03-28-2008, 05:03 PM	#5
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Granada Hills, CA Age: 43 Posts: 6,990 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	I read the faq for that and I think I like the analog just fine lol. Granted the digital would be cool it's a whole lot of work and old wires to fiddle with. __________________ Wayne Edwards https://om1kron.blogspot.com

03-28-2008, 07:31 PM	#8
rongfk Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: sur, califa's Age: 40 Posts: 865 Trader Rating: (13) Rides Gallery: rongfk Feedback Score: 13 reviews	i got what you need. take a look. http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=173392 you can find the digital units from 25-50 bucks. so all you need is the unit, sub-harness, and some of the things that i have. you already have the rest. __________________ for sale: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193169 -1990 s13 hb w/all jdm 180sx goodies... gone to fresno -1985 ae86 gts turbo... going threw a heart transplant -1963 euro ragtop bug... asleep in the garage Luv 2 Build, Luv 2 Show, Luv 2 Cruise!....

03-28-2008, 04:54 PM	#3
Ragnarok043 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SF Posts: 285 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you definitely need the DCC harness, it converts the standard harness to the DCC and it has the connectors for the additional sensors such as the sun load sensor, cabin temp sensor and the air mix motor.

03-28-2008, 09:56 PM	#9
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	I have all that stuff from the analog climate control that came in the clip! I already found a digital control unit for cheap as well. What I do need is knowledge on weather or not everything that I DO have crosses over to the digital unit. I would assume that nissan would use all the same stuff in order to cut costs, I just wanna be sure. The way this is going I think I'll just buy the unit and try it.

03-29-2008, 05:15 AM	#10
Ragnarok043 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SF Posts: 285 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	in that case if the connector fits the DCC unit, then you should be fine. just make sure you have all the correct sensors and connectors to plug them into. for me the hardest part was installing the linkage arm to the air mix door, mounting the air mix motor and chopping the blower speed sensor fins.

03-29-2008, 12:18 PM	#11
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	^^^ Ya i saw that I would have to build a bracket, but that is no biggie. The unit I found has the pigtails, but no sensors and other wiring so I can for sure make it work. Thakns for the replies guys.

04-15-2008, 06:36 AM	#12
tunedbyjdm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MY Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does your CA18 clip's analog climate control comes with the sun load sensor and airmix motor?

04-15-2008, 07:07 AM	#13
Ca_laurier Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: calgary/canada Age: 38 Posts: 421 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if its an auto climate control unit all you need to do is hook the digital head on to it. I have done it on 2 silvia's and both of them have worked just make sure you actually have the whole harness

04-15-2008, 07:12 AM	#14
clark Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: new york Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok i think i understand your question. you have a clip that came with one of these (this is what i will be using, i don't care about fancy smancy digital displays) so you want to know if the harness for this type of control unit will work on the DCC. i've been slowly rewiring mine, and all of the info on the internet seemed to match my harness. if you want i could take pictures or something...PM me if you need something

04-15-2008, 11:41 AM	#15
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	^^^That's exactly it! I have decided to just wing it and go for it. The DCC unit came with the pigtails so even if the non-digital unit's connectors don't match I can still wire it up. And I DID remove the ALL of the A/C wiring from the dash harness so anything I need will be there. I honestly won't get to doing this for a while though.