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Originally Posted by hahahahaha
also I'd say it depends on how much money u have ...... any stand alone I'd say is gonna Cost $$$ to but it .. maybe have to pay to install it and mainly pay for tunning ..... obiously u know u need a good tuner .. tunning meand everything .. so id say depending on ur budget .. is say between Power FC d- jetro or AEM EMS ... other than that one very good ecu to go with is just an emphathy or jim wolf ecu ... Good not to expensive and fast ... and if u really want that extra lil HP a safc to fine tune it ...
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Piggy Backs are garbage imho...E-manage included when you compare to a true ECU replacement.
whether or not your disrupting input or output function value for voltage, signal or ground to activate or molest a component that is operating in creating the combustion process or timing of your engine, its still just a trick and not a true change to the control systems operation. Its trickery! haha
the AEM unit is supposedly works with output molestation open but I havent tried the greddy piggy back bs, so I dont know where it wires in. If its affecting inputs that makes it even worse.
Power FC is a better unit IMO. If you can get a black market copy of excell tuning software its leaps and bounds beyond any piggy back.
The L-jedtro Unit is great also (iirc) The MAP sensor is the key. The PFC and The Metal HG are the only things worth buying from apexi IMO.
Excatly, if your not comfortable with a local tuner to tune the unit get a tuned rom and lose the extra 20-40whp you could have with a properly tuned standalone until you can afford something better than a PFC like a Haltech or AEM unit.
PS. I can build maps for anything, clandestine, but fine load point tuning must be done a dyno. Dyno-jet is not as good at the other dynos but it will work for tunes of many applications. I would just prefer a mustang dyno myself for accurate replication of load on road condition tuning, especially for timing maps.
Also I believe Tomei has a standalone or fully reprogrammable ECU replacement as well? anyone have details? Im interested in trying one out.
Another question I have but am too lazy to track down right now is: Are the new units from Apexi coming pre-packaged with software? now?
Thanks
and cheers