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Originally Posted by hey808
I would disagree with that. If you were autocrossing and using the lift-and-rotate technique, then it would slow you down. You want to stay in traction on the tighter autocross courses. I've tried doing autocrosses with a 2-way and it was a handfull. Luckily for me the course layout was big, with high-speed, wide-radius turns so I was able to fast-drift the course and finish in the top 5 (Miata club outing).
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It's all driver's preference. Again, like I said above, it's a very simplistic view holding all else equal.
Remember that with lower speeds like you see with most otterx, it's harder to reduce rotation because you're riding lower on the traction curve on at least some of the tyres. Most likely you're only exceeding traction on 1 or 2 tyres at most, unlike roadracing where you're trying to manage the traction budget for all 4. Look at pix of tripods.
You want to induce a little bit of a slip angle and then reduce the slip angle once you're almost pointed the right way. Remember that with lower speeds, inertial forces are not as high so you could get away with a larger slip angle for a longer amount of time. It's like you almost want to induce oversteer.
When you pick up speed, it's easier to induce rotation by slipping the tyres momentarily, then regaining control afterwards.
On a roadcourse you need the opposite (less aggressive turn-in so you don't spin) because speeds are much higher. Imagine what would happen if you tripod'ed at 100mph. I think this is why people say they prefer 1.5 because it keeps the car under the traction limit. Remember that for a given slip angle, as speed increases, it becomes harder to control the car because inertial forces are greater and you have less time to react.
Do what works for you. I prefer a 2-way because it's more predictable and responsive, but do what makes you comfortable.
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Originally Posted by hey808
Roadracing you should be ok with a 2-way as long as your transitions from throttle to braking are smooth.
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This is right on. Transitions should be smooth everywhere
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Originally Posted by S14SwimShark105
Just shutup and drive g6civcx, stop acting like you know everything.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I haven't said that I know everything ever. I don't know everything, but I know what I know well, and I know what I don't know. I just don't want to spread bad information.
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Originally Posted by MaD1337M3DRiV3r
my car is daily drivin, i've had
-open
-vlsd
-nismo 1.5
In that order too, the 1.5 is the best out of all of them. I still consider myself to be a noob at road racing, so I went with the 1.5 instead of the 2way.
Like the bandwagoneer g6civicx said if you have the skills a 2way is supposed to be the best.
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I'm not a noob but I'm not an expert either, but I'd venture to say that I have more experience than most people posting in the tech forum.
Like I already said above, do what feels the best for you. I prefer 2-way because it rewards good driving techniques with instant response and predictability. I've experienced all types, open, vsld, helical, 1-1.5-2, welded, etc.
My only concern with your post is that you did not say that you have had a 2-way. Why would you rule something out if you haven't experienced it?
Just remember. When you're new, adjust yourself to the car, but when you have more experience and developed your own style, adjust the car to you.