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jdmrice · 04-18-2003, 09:39 AM

I tried to drive my car with the same setup for street and track..not saying that I want to practice drifting on the street..but simply get used to how the car react at every single incident...

Moto San from Club4GA wrote a good article...call "street racing?"...now I am posting it here and share with you guys...
driving on the street can be boring...if you are just "driving"...
driving on the street can be interesting...if you are "learning"...

here is the post... written by Moto-P from www.club4ag.com

direct link www.club4ag.com]http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29154[/URL]

copy and paste:

OK... I dont mean this in a traditional sense...BUT, there are lots of things you can do in the streets while abiding traffic laws that will make you a better sports car driver.

1. Search for small objects in the road like pebbles while cruising around town, trash or lane-markers (that wont damage your tires) and see if you can step on it with your tire accurately. This will teach you the exact location of your contact patch, and more accurate idea in the back of your head about dimensions of your car as well --
This is useful when you are on a racetrack and aiming for a apex point...to be able to get close to the edge of the road whithout falling off...or drifting to feel where your rear tires are tracing.

2. Try to be stable on your steering inputs... try staying on a lane marker for as long as you can without veering off from it... This teaches you to be very accurate in tracing where you want to go on a raceway. You will notice this is harder than you might think on say a freeway...at speeds of 50 to 70 mph...

3. At an intersection while stopped, rev and hold your engine to 2000, 3000, and 4000, then at 3500, 4500, etc... in neutral... Try to do this without veering your rpm too much... It's something pretty difficult at first too... Once you get good at it, you should be able to tell where your engine speeds are without even looking at the tachometer. -- useful for heel and toe shifts to be able to hit a target rpm accurately and quicky by blipping. And the small increments of foot movement can teach you to stay very accurate in managing throttle inputs in racing... Best pro drivers will be able to demonstrate this with single blip and hold at 250 rpm increments...

4. Try to stop at an intersection line accurately without modulating the brake force too much. This does not have to be at dangerous sudden stopping. You can start early and guess how much stopping pressure is required by your feet... Ideally, you should press once at a given pressure, and hold that pressure to stop at exactly where you want... Useful in teaching you how to brake effieiently and translate braking forces to your foot from feedback of G's.

If you can constantly pay attention to these things...not only you will be a smoother diver in a daily commute but you will be much more ahead of those guys that can't do that on the raceway...trust me... It's a great way to advance your background skills before coming to a raceway.

In that sense, the sport driving can start on the street. Learning how every little motion of your car, even in normal traffic speeds, affect your car and how aware you can be to those motions...

Go ahead... Go to it...it's actually more challenging than you think! and it's safe.

Moto
Webmaster, Club4AG

so now you know.....

04-18-2003, 09:39 AM	#12
jdmrice Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hacienda Hts, CA Posts: 36 Trader Rating: (0)	I tried to drive my car with the same setup for street and track..not saying that I want to practice drifting on the street..but simply get used to how the car react at every single incident... Moto San from Club4GA wrote a good article...call "street racing?"...now I am posting it here and share with you guys... driving on the street can be boring...if you are just "driving"... driving on the street can be interesting...if you are "learning"... here is the post... written by Moto-P from www.club4ag.com direct link www.club4ag.com]http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29154[/URL] copy and paste: OK... I dont mean this in a traditional sense...BUT, there are lots of things you can do in the streets while abiding traffic laws that will make you a better sports car driver. 1. Search for small objects in the road like pebbles while cruising around town, trash or lane-markers (that wont damage your tires) and see if you can step on it with your tire accurately. This will teach you the exact location of your contact patch, and more accurate idea in the back of your head about dimensions of your car as well -- This is useful when you are on a racetrack and aiming for a apex point...to be able to get close to the edge of the road whithout falling off...or drifting to feel where your rear tires are tracing. 2. Try to be stable on your steering inputs... try staying on a lane marker for as long as you can without veering off from it... This teaches you to be very accurate in tracing where you want to go on a raceway. You will notice this is harder than you might think on say a freeway...at speeds of 50 to 70 mph... 3. At an intersection while stopped, rev and hold your engine to 2000, 3000, and 4000, then at 3500, 4500, etc... in neutral... Try to do this without veering your rpm too much... It's something pretty difficult at first too... Once you get good at it, you should be able to tell where your engine speeds are without even looking at the tachometer. -- useful for heel and toe shifts to be able to hit a target rpm accurately and quicky by blipping. And the small increments of foot movement can teach you to stay very accurate in managing throttle inputs in racing... Best pro drivers will be able to demonstrate this with single blip and hold at 250 rpm increments... 4. Try to stop at an intersection line accurately without modulating the brake force too much. This does not have to be at dangerous sudden stopping. You can start early and guess how much stopping pressure is required by your feet... Ideally, you should press once at a given pressure, and hold that pressure to stop at exactly where you want... Useful in teaching you how to brake effieiently and translate braking forces to your foot from feedback of G's. If you can constantly pay attention to these things...not only you will be a smoother diver in a daily commute but you will be much more ahead of those guys that can't do that on the raceway...trust me... It's a great way to advance your background skills before coming to a raceway. In that sense, the sport driving can start on the street. Learning how every little motion of your car, even in normal traffic speeds, affect your car and how aware you can be to those motions... Go ahead... Go to it...it's actually more challenging than you think! and it's safe. Moto Webmaster, Club4AG so now you know.....