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Originally Posted by drift freaq
You obviously A: do not know much about Nissans racing history which is as storied as Porsche's and B: Don't quite realize that Nissan markets a lot more than 4 door family cars outside the U.S. LOL in other words. C: You don't know history and to dismiss them as a 4 door family car company is to sell them short.
Toyota would have more experience in that department than Nissan and even Toyota has had some very noteworthy and race winning sports cars as well.
You have no idea about Japanese people either do you? What Porsche did was very insulting and insinuated if not straight out said that Nissan was lieing. Nissan actually made a quite appropriate response given the situation.
Porsche is not gods gift to Sports cars. In fact most of them have been quite ill mannered sports cars and not known for being the best handling. Porsche only manage to sort out the 911's handling issues around 1995. Ya over 30 years with a basic design and they could not sort.
I am tired of People talking about how great Porsche is. They aren't hell most of the Carrera GT's built have been crashed because they were a handful. $450k and a handful. LOL
Oh and please don't compare Civics or their owners to NIssan thats an insult as well to NIssan.
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Your reading it wrong. Let me break it down for you so that you can see what my mind was thinking when I put that down in text.
Nissan's forte is making family/practical cars these days, if not since its beginning. They now have the GT-R and Z car (including the infiniti). Besides that, they have the altima, maxima, sentra, versa, cube, etc. Their main marketing is oriented towards families and practicality... The Infiniti line up is quite a bit sportier, but its still more or less a family car with a little of that racing DNA.
Unlike porsche, who almost exclusively makes sports cars marketed at a certain demographic.
Yeah, Nissan may have a fantastic, storied history of racing, and yeah they may have been groundbreaking with many of the technolgies they implimented and came out with, but their main market has always been the average joe with a wife and 2 kids, because thats what makes money. And because they make good money off of the family cars they can have the fun little side projects like the Pulsar GTI-R and Atessa SSS, oriented to those wanting a little more zip. But those cars all usually stem from a practical daily driver type car. (their Neon SRT-4s or Cobalt SS's)
Porsche is overrated, everyone knows that. Its a status symbol, but they like to think of themselves as a race car company. They make be quick and handle decent (imo from the ones I've been in) but theres better for less. Porsche is synonymous with elitism. And elitists either have it their way or their way.
Im not insulting the Japanese. I was applauding them for the way they eloquently told porsche to fuck off. They said porsche's driver clearly wasnt a good one, and that they would help the driver become better acquainted with the GR-R. Thats a huge insult to an elitist porsche.
Dont insult my knowledge on either Porsche's or Nissan's racing petigrees. It may not be extensive, but im not ignorant.
And yes, perhaps that wasn't the greatest analogy. What I was saying is that an elitist Porsche was told that they needed to learn how to drive by a company percieved by the majority of the general public as a family car kind of company. When people hear Porsche they think sports car. When people hear nissan, they think of the Maxima. Simple name association.
In summation... Porsche said Nissan lied. Nissan eloquently told Porsche to fuck themselves. Porsche is buttsore because a Porsche got raped by a Nissan.
Hope that cleared it up. Not trying to show you up, not trying to back up porsche, but Its porsche... Theyre supposed to be top dog for upper middle class americans, not a company that makes reasonably priced sedans.