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Old 01-18-2009, 10:12 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Mangudai View Post
I always wondered about this. You see a lot of the Honda boys using these.
Like I said, the honda ignition outputs about 1/3rd more power than the MSD setup. There is apsolutely no advantage to using an external ignition system.

A 9 second civic is running stock ignition.

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Originally Posted by mxexux View Post
IMO I've only heard of people that know what they are doing upgrade their ignition as a necessity and not to gain anything from it. The necessity would be brought on by high comp, forced induction, alternative fuel, or anything that the stock ignition system was not designed to tolerate.
Those people dont know what they're doing.

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Originally Posted by 2point2;36655407 - honda tech
When I installed my turbo I UNINSTALLED my MSD and sold it. I ran a 10.6:1 comp motor on 9+ PSI.
MSDs add an extra layer of unnecessary complexity and unreliability to the ignition system. I had nothing but problems with a few MSD products.
Wires - Only lasted a summer - they can't handle being taken off and put back on as often OEM wires can.. They're fragile a cheaply manufactured... just look at them!
Cap - MELTED TWO MSD caps in 1 summer. (between the post and the center).
Coil - Never had a problem. I believe they put a touch more juice than a stock Honda coil.
MSD Box - Personally seen many of them go in the trash can! Sold mine before it was my turn.

They even tell you how to wire up a backup!! LOL

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Originally Posted by Boostedb20EH2;28259056 Honda-Tech
Just a note, people make more than 500whp on oem ignition systems. On 15 psi i took my msd out and went back to oem and i havent noticed a difference.
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Originally Posted by boostincoupe View Post
Run an OEM ignition setup.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. FYI, 600whp+ has been made on STOCK components.
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Originally Posted by ej8 View Post
All it does is make your car less reliable. I have seen way too many MSD related failures, and personally had a MSD coil go bad on me leaving me stranded. Even if I ever needed to upgrade I would not use MSD, other than their sparkplug wires.
The OE honda ignitions systems are VERY accurate, VERY reliable and plenty for 99% of setups
This was all taken from the FI forum @ HT

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread...t=ignition+msd

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Originally Posted by Soccerking3000 View Post
its been proven the stock ignition equipment is good for tons of power, i would just use stock stuff and sell the msd and use the money for tuning lol
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Originally Posted by Black DC2 View Post
i have seen well over 600 hp on stock ignition and stock head no pp
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Originally Posted by hondaeg8 View Post
stock.. msd ignition left me stranded one time
I'd save the trouble and sell the ignition, keep everything stock. Less trouble down the road

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