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Originally Posted by hsitko
Just two things. Codyace
First. Methanol is alcohol.
Second. Finding any actual pressure drop information on most of the name brand intercoolers is difficult. For some reason its not a stat that they advertise.
As for the rest. You have not provided me with any valuable data to back up your claims. Only conjecture and opinion. Thank you for your attempt to change my mind. I value other points of view and opinions. I tried to make a logical case for something based on actual evidence and data. I never stated that a front mount should not be run. Only that you should choose one based on power goals and use. But you took it personal and got emotional.
My data is posted. The info speaks for its self. I have no opinion any more.
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Pressure drop could simply be measured with a reference before and after the aftercooler...way too easy.
When I use 'alcohol' I speak about fuel used for cars. It's not methanol that they use in the cars. Is methanol an alcohol? Certainly...but I don't use the terms on that sense. They are not interchangable iterms in most 'car guy' circles, so excuse my lack of technical backing.
And lastly, you haven't provided any information yourself. Sure I don't have everything written down on paper, but I do have first hand experience with this stuff, on mulitple platforms and in different forms. So while I may not 'convince' an engineer type, I will be able to say "I told you so" after someone switches with ill results; just because their isn't empirical data presented doesn't mean you should write someones opinion off as nonsense. If I did that to most old heads I wouldn't know what I do today.
If a sidemount was 'truly' a better option, you'd see more after market SMIC's, and more support/usage of them. The truth of the matter is that they were designed for an OE application, and an 'everyday' driver in mind. 10-14 psi, with abuse on the street all night or multiple passes in a row, is not what Nissan engineers (probably calsonic or garrett more than likely) built it for.
You simply can't combat heatsoak. I don't care if a hole is cutout of the side, with specific ducting...if the cooler itself isn't efficient at transfer it's not going to work. This is why you see HP (really torque) differences when people go from crabby Ebay FMIC's to Quality core FMIC's.
So while your calculations on needed processing make sense to you, the reality is your're not taking into account the two biggest things: Efficiency (pressure drop) and heat transfer rate (excuse my lack of technical terms). A stock sidemount is less than ideal in both applications for any member looking to use their car spiritedly. Granted many car modders are often guilty of being 'lemmings', but after 15 yeras of these cars (and other setups) being out there, there is a reason why you see FMIC's on them. Works on paper <> works in application.