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Originally Posted by sykikchimp
btw - I didn't actually read any of the thread after people started whining about the honda bashing.
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heh, so did i
but since we resurrected the thread, i say we keep at it :-p
1. Honda sux
2. VTEC was created as an economical feature, not as high rpm race mod. Whoever decided that it was, was either a performance company owner or a crackhead.
3. We already have cars that go fast in the straight line and can't turn. They are called 'domestics'.
4. FF has never been and will never be a race platform. The whole "Honda Challenge" and similar honda only events were only invented to make those cars competitive at least somewhere.
5. The 2004 honda civic si puts down the same skidpad numbers for $19K as ford escort gt did for $12K 13 years ago. Runs slower too.
6. The only 2 cars i'd ever consider worthy of a race car are the NSX and the ITR. Both however are outhandled by cheaper cars in the same class.
7. Honda's are overpriced and overrated, ppl buying them are fairly dumb, ppl modifying them for 'performance' are prolly even dumber.
Not all of this is true, but hey, some exageration always needed
And btw, all this is being said from a point of a person who's not biased due to the 240sx factor.
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Honda CRX SI
Price: $2500 average for a pre 90 model with ~150K miles
Skidpad: 0.81g
Slalom: 59.84mph
0-60: 8.5s
Ford Escort GT (aka Mazda Protege)
Price: $1000 average for a 91-94 model with ~150K miles
Skidpad: 0.82g
Slalom: 61.9mph
0-60: 8.0s