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Originally Posted by JoshuaLogan
The Mustang is 3500 pounds. It's not in any way the new Silvia like you claimed, bud. 4 cylinders are great in light cars. Not so much in heavy cars.
As for wanting a car with a 4 cylinder that can make 400hp with bolt-ons, get an S2000.  |
The Mustang is still a performance bargain. Even the V6 gives the 370z a run for its money, and it's almost $10k less. They just keep getting better, whereas Nissan is too worried about making the Z uglier.
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Originally Posted by JoshuaLogan
Understandable. I don't think the FR-S/BRZ would really shine until it got forced induction and some sticky tires. It's no question a used S2000 is the better bang for the buck when thinking about the initial cost to get a hold of one and then adding a few mods, but when considering going all out for a track car, I'm not so sure. The S2K has the better engine, suspension, and weight balance, but worse stability, aero, torque, overall weight, cost of parts, etc.... Both have pros and cons, but there are a few highly modded FR-S/BRZs out there doing very well... the Evasive FR-S, especially.
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WON'T shine at all until it gets forced induction. As far as track cars go, you can find AP1's all day for 10k no problem. It will still be a few years before the FRS reaches that pricepoint, and by then the S2k's will be even cheaper. Worse stability? Where are we talking? Aero, TQ, and cost of parts are all relative to what you're planning on doing and how you're going to mod the car. The FRZ and S2000 are nearly the same exact weight. Don't believe me?
http://www.bowtie6.com/how-much-does-honda-s2000-weigh/ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7881
That "lightweight" hype is exactly what it is. It's light compared to most modern cars, but it's far from being a Lotus Elise or Miata. The Evasive car has been extensively modified and worked, so I'd be surprised if it weren't doing well, especially considering the fact that it's Evasive Motorsports were talking.
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Originally Posted by exitspeed
The 370z is a full 6 model years old now. I can't believe we're not on the verge of the debut of the new car.
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No shit man, I'm hoping they go more towards the styling of the 240z once again, but I won't be holding my breath.
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Originally Posted by Rustys14
I'm not sure about this. I've driven the FRS several times and it has never reminded of my old AE86 in the slightest. Driving the frs does however feel almost exactly the same as driving a 240 to me (which is actually the most unappealing factor of the entire car imo).
I love the way s2000's drive and the pricing is appealing but there are still better cars out there in the same price range that would keep me from personally taking the plunge. Hell, you can get a low mileage 986 boxster for under 8k around here and those are an absolute blast to drive.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said about the FRS and comparing it to driving a 240sx. It has all the same driving feel and handling with the same disappointment you get when stepping on the gas like driving a KA
Your second point is why I didn't buy another S2000. Not because I didn't think it would've been nice to have another(I will eventually), but I couldn't resist the appeal of getting into a car with double the horsepower(and potential power), and nearly the same MPG for the price lol and the Corvette is cheap as fuck on insurance if any of you were ever wondering. As far as Porsche goes, I've never had good luck with anything German so you can have that.