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Old 08-02-2019, 06:54 AM   #1371
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I will address a few items in your response

1) Please point out where I made personal attacks against you?? You have called people "complete idiot" (see below for your quote). That's a personal attack. Stating that you missed the finer detail in an opinion and with me citing proper sources to justify this statement, is called a discussion. I am not sure why you are unable to differentiate between the two. Your post is additional ironic, as you state Nazis are Socialist in this very same post and have since just ignored my postings on this.....


Corbic Post 1301 in Trump thread

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No, he's just a complete idiot who dodges everyone question and point.

He seriously tried to make a statement that Nazis are not Socialists.
2) Do not accuse me of not reading your source. Example
I pointed out your statement linking a Nazi to the Dem party through a socialist argument is incorrect as you missed the nuanced portion. I provided links through Britannica and historical citation. You decided to not address and continue to ignore those links and references when continuing to sprout this categorically false narrative. You provided a video in regards to a Marxist POV which "supposedly" supported your argument. I watched the video and commented that your supposed evidence, completely debunks your argument within the first 3 mins (as that TEK explicitly stated). So please do not levy such an accusation when you yourself have decided to actually ignore historical markers.

3) Fair statement in regards to immigration. I will be a bit more nuanced in my discussion about

According to the Constitution, the term immigration is not explicitly stated. However, Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 does read, “… Congress is responsible to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, …”

https://www.theamericanview.com/cons...g-immigration/

Now, as it stands, according to the current law as set forth by Congress in regards to Assylum seekers (refugees)

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Asylum is a protection granted to foreign nationals already in the United States or at the border who meet the international law definition of a “refugee.” The United Nations 1951 Convention and 1967 Protocol define a refugee as a person who is unable or unwilling to return to his or her home country, and cannot obtain protection in that country, due to past persecution or a well-founded fear of being persecuted in the future “on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.” Congress incorporated this definition into U.S. immigration law in the Refugee Act of 1980.
By the Law of the land, Assylum seekers are supported under "legal" immigration. The nuanced issue; the Trump Admin hasn't made any changes to the current law through Congress so this Law should be recognized.



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Originally Posted by spooled240 View Post
You all act like Obama didn't deport 5 million illegal immigrants..
.........Please point out where I stated this at ANY point in time. The topic of discussion here is; relating detention centers as setup by the Obama admin (which I acknowledge) to the current Admin Seperation of Family. That is NOT what I stated in my post or what I brought up in terms of nuance discussion. That has NO impact on family separation as set forth by the Current Admin.

And please cite where the Obama admin deported 5M illegal immigrants. As it stands, according to the actual statistic from DHS its a little more than 3M (which includes a mix of Criminals and non criminals)

And I still have no idea what that has to do with Family Separation, which is the target of my discussion ............

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