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Red89AllStockBiotch · 12-03-2002, 06:55 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Dec. 03 2002,7:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Foxcolt @ Dec. 03 2002,1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nerfdude @ Dec. 03 2002,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i can't comprehend spending so much money to end up with a smaller engine. if you're going to spend 3 grand on the engine, spend it on turboing the KA. and if you've got 5 grand to throw around, definately buy a 91+.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
2500 = redtop sr plus boost controller. Will demolish any turbo ka on stock internals. I have seen many instances of both (sr's and KA+T's) and I have never seen a non built ka take out an sr.

Build and turbo a KA THE RIGHT WAY and you'll go through that 5 grand before you can even buy a car.

Just FYI for the people that wanted to start a KA vs SR battle.
Jed <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

Edit: Not to mention turboing a KA for 1500 buckazoids would equal having to cut some major corners. A well suited turbo for a KA would range from 400-700 bux. Fuel injectors 300 tops. ECU retune 600 intercooler, fuel pump, exhaust intake, intercooler piping blah blah</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Riiiiight. Lets see..
u get a used engine, used turbo, used manifold used ic...
I get used ungine (well alrdy have it), used turbo and brand new manifold...
You get to pay $500 for shipping... i dont (well u have a ka stuck around now so say you can cover the shipping if u sell that).

Now $1500 that i'm putting in my car ends me up with a set of nice gauges (one of them - $130 greddy gauge), and an msd rev limiter (to make it super safe <- set at 5400 so that i never reach 6000 that will kill me).

As for cutting corners.... not really. A rebuilt turbo costs about $250 (hey isn't yer t25 used as well?). 330cc injectors in ebay - $120. IC - not nesessary for 4psi. Ask jeff240sx. If i really want it though (and i kinda do and i'm prolly gonna get it) eclipse side mounts are there all the time for <$50. Fuel pump - hmmm what was it... 8psi that it maxes out at? Exhaust - i could care less... plus u didn't get one with yer sr either, did u? My 2.25 will do fine at 4psi. Intake - that's included in the $1500. Intercooler piping? 2 1/4" piping from discount autoparts - $7/foot (includes crush bends) and that is also included in the $1500.

But lets add all this shit to my 1500 bux.
Walbro fuel pump - 130
ECU - 600
injectors - 130
normal ic - 300
now i'm good to run 10psi (what's that, 280rwhp?) for only 2660. Now lets throw in the price of the cherry picker you have to buy for the swap, and the sr ends up at 2700 (assume all the other tools are the same). Hey, it's still less than the stock sr costs and it will own the hell out of it... doh.

The only place sr is better than ka, is at that elusive 300-400rwhp mark, where u kinda gotta rebuild the ka and the sr will still do fine (well, replace the turbo and all that shit but i won't be counting that). After that they are both the same and will both break often. But before that 300rwhp mark ka will take the sr for the same amount of money.

Side note, the demolishing part.... you forgot front mount ic... add $300 more.... now for that money the ka will prolly be still faster...

Plus not all of us are mad phat stunnaz who wonna have l33t 350rwhp. I'd be fine if my stock looking 240 will take on a stock type r or at least puts up a good battle with it. Plus some people like taking it one step at a time.

PS. I wasn't planning to start the sr-ka battle, but since you want it so badly i'll give in. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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12-03-2002, 06:55 PM	#16
Red89AllStockBiotch Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 72 Trader Rating: (0)	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Dec. 03 2002,7:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Foxcolt @ Dec. 03 2002,1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nerfdude @ Dec. 03 2002,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i can't comprehend spending so much money to end up with a smaller engine. if you're going to spend 3 grand on the engine, spend it on turboing the KA. and if you've got 5 grand to throw around, definately buy a 91+.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> 2500 = redtop sr plus boost controller. Will demolish any turbo ka on stock internals. I have seen many instances of both (sr's and KA+T's) and I have never seen a non built ka take out an sr. Build and turbo a KA THE RIGHT WAY and you'll go through that 5 grand before you can even buy a car. Just FYI for the people that wanted to start a KA vs SR battle. Jed <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'> Edit: Not to mention turboing a KA for 1500 buckazoids would equal having to cut some major corners. A well suited turbo for a KA would range from 400-700 bux. Fuel injectors 300 tops. ECU retune 600 intercooler, fuel pump, exhaust intake, intercooler piping blah blah</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Riiiiight. Lets see.. u get a used engine, used turbo, used manifold used ic... I get used ungine (well alrdy have it), used turbo and brand new manifold... You get to pay $500 for shipping... i dont (well u have a ka stuck around now so say you can cover the shipping if u sell that). Now $1500 that i'm putting in my car ends me up with a set of nice gauges (one of them - $130 greddy gauge), and an msd rev limiter (to make it super safe <- set at 5400 so that i never reach 6000 that will kill me). As for cutting corners.... not really. A rebuilt turbo costs about $250 (hey isn't yer t25 used as well?). 330cc injectors in ebay - $120. IC - not nesessary for 4psi. Ask jeff240sx. If i really want it though (and i kinda do and i'm prolly gonna get it) eclipse side mounts are there all the time for <$50. Fuel pump - hmmm what was it... 8psi that it maxes out at? Exhaust - i could care less... plus u didn't get one with yer sr either, did u? My 2.25 will do fine at 4psi. Intake - that's included in the $1500. Intercooler piping? 2 1/4" piping from discount autoparts - $7/foot (includes crush bends) and that is also included in the $1500. But lets add all this shit to my 1500 bux. Walbro fuel pump - 130 ECU - 600 injectors - 130 normal ic - 300 now i'm good to run 10psi (what's that, 280rwhp?) for only 2660. Now lets throw in the price of the cherry picker you have to buy for the swap, and the sr ends up at 2700 (assume all the other tools are the same). Hey, it's still less than the stock sr costs and it will own the hell out of it... doh. The only place sr is better than ka, is at that elusive 300-400rwhp mark, where u kinda gotta rebuild the ka and the sr will still do fine (well, replace the turbo and all that shit but i won't be counting that). After that they are both the same and will both break often. But before that 300rwhp mark ka will take the sr for the same amount of money. Side note, the demolishing part.... you forgot front mount ic... add $300 more.... now for that money the ka will prolly be still faster... Plus not all of us are mad phat stunnaz who wonna have l33t 350rwhp. I'd be fine if my stock looking 240 will take on a stock type r or at least puts up a good battle with it. Plus some people like taking it one step at a time. PS. I wasn't planning to start the sr-ka battle, but since you want it so badly i'll give in. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Yeah <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> .Bitch. __________________ Me: "Vanilla Coke, it's like regular coke till you swallow it, and then you say "Ooooh...Vanilla"" Mike: "I don't like it though, but the Vanilla Coke Slurpy is good at 7-11"