[Bill Roberts]

I know old_s13 feels that it is utterly impossible to have your self home and not driving...or someone elses house and not driving by 11PM...but face the facts:

Late night cruising, places you under a magnifying scope. Car-pooling after the "show out" around 7 to 9 is most cool. Meet some chicks, proimise to take them for a Saturday morning cruise down the coast and a nice breakfast and park the SOB at 10:30 and get LAID...

Now, you want to get out of this..and you will lose sleep worrying.



Here are the choices:

You can postpone the whole situation until a real court date.

Not good......but the best choice overall. but your first visit in court is an arraignment...best to resolve it right now. Do you know what the cops all looked like? Can you ID them in court? Their obviously were several cops there so can you prove to yourself that when you enter the courtroom...that they are not there...AND the cops can hide in the chambers until your case comes up so you will not know they are there.

They play dirty games in court. They want your money and they are in bed with the insurance companies...taxes etc..

During said Arraignment, you will be presented with the charges that are proposed against you. At this time (first court visit) you can either say guilty (Judge will fine you and you will have to deal with any other situations that will come about like points to your DL, and driving school, or anything the judge wants to do. He may have a bad day and throw you in the jail for 30 days...who knows)??

This is the time that you are supposed to let the court know whether you plan to contest the ticket or if you are going to just "plea guilty, or no contest" A plea of Not guilty is a contesting of the charges.

If you see no cops and you are at the bench with evidence and the other guy and all that...then you may be able to proceeed..unless a cop comes out of a back room to show his side of the story..and hope he has no video in his car...he can lie then and say...I was doing 60 and not catching them..and he will!

But if you formally contest it, the cops will be there and you do have the right to know what actual evedence he has against you...whether video, whatever. A written police report. Gives you time to prepare your case...and if no priors..you will probably win it.


It is in the courts best intrest to dispose of the case quick..it is a terrible gamble.

If you are not guilty, contest it formally. It may happen that day..it may bve postponed. Your legal council will require that you have access to everything the cops have, as evidence. As is, your words against his..and cops win if they are there...good doing on this..you must think it through.


Bottom line to avoid this bullcrap is to carpool and not get out there where you are exposed...yes it is old Man talk...but when 75% of all 16 thru 22 year old car accident deaths occur after 10:30PM...then that says something.

I know you were not doing anything but pushing the dude to either get around or fall behind..it is normal street life..happens all the time. The cop will have a different story..you better believe it..and backup cops too??? Yep..I would contest it.