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Originally Posted by AutoDestruct
Yeah I'm going to defend the "Freedom" of this country? what the H*ll are you talking about? How does Iraq have anything to do with my freedom? O that's right it's my freedom for cheap gas. Bah!! That's retarded. I will not kill anyone, or contribute to any such thing, in the name of the advancement of some private military industrial buisness. Halliburton is who you are fighting for. I am not some "spit on the soldiers when they come home" hippie or some crazed anti-american. I just feel that the men and women in the military are being abused by a regime that mascarades behind democracy and furthers the destruction of the world in the name of peace. The bush white house are a bunch of sicko's, whether it is deliberate or just done in accident I do not know. It almost does not matter. Death is Death.
And Osama? he's a freaking mujhadeen for gods sake. Its all are own mess. this is what war creates. Iraq is far from afghanistan though, a totally different reason and rhyme to why we are there in that place of madness. 911 is different than because "
he was a very bad guy." Osama should have been gone 10 years ago.
I reject the idea that I am not patriotic, and I reject the claim that we are defending "our freedom". Look past the lies, and see history and its true causes and effects. War is Evil.
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AutoDestruct, talk to someone who lived in Europe before and during WWII. Ask them what it would have been like if countries had gotten off there pansy asses and stopped Hitler when they had a chance and just not let him do as he pleased. Ask my grandmother whose saw her best friend shot by the German SS outside of her home because her father was an Italian partisan. Ask the brothers, sisters, sons, and daughters of the peope who died in that war what it would be like if countries had come together to stop the German war machine before it even started, before the hundred of thousands of Americans lost there lives to try to retake ground that should have never been lost. Why let people like Saddam do as he please when we have the mean of stopping another, possibly worse conflict in the future? Saddam was a tyrant plain and simple and a dangerous tyrant at that. The world is a better place with out him. You may sit here and whine that "This war is for oil and not to protect peace" but think about what it would be like 20,30, or even 40 years from now if we let things go and Saddam became the next Hitler and your sons (or daughters) have to fight in a war of necessity rather avoidence. Would you want to get that letter that says your boy isnt coming home and knowing if we had stepped up all those years before, things would have been a little different.
Your right, look past the lies, and see history and its true causes and effects. Learn for the mistakes of the past and learn from them, we are all fools if we dont. And we would all be fools if we let Saddam remain in power for a second longer then we did because of the leasons learned in the past.
Sleep on that one for a little while and tell me what we are doing is wrong.