Never played wow but, I heard it had a pretty bad launch.
As for swtor, Ppl were expecting greatness since it had some like a 200 mil development budget. Mostly many who loved star wars galaxies were looking forward for the next star wars mmo. Many were disappointed mainly it was a heavy theme park, badly optimized, lack of characterization, railroad space travel, no immersion, (my favorite) ugly character design and animation.
lol valor farming