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Old 04-13-2012, 01:19 PM   #60
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It's OK I'll wait here until you respond with an intelligent answer. I am blaming the people that shaped the events. He is the driving force behind what is going on today. And if you didn't notice, those 50 years were prosperity until recently. He is a socialist. Socialism is taking money from the successful and giving it to underachievers. You must be one of them. Obama is not religious. He is full of himself which is why we are where we are. I can tell you are a supporter and a liberal, so there isn't much of a point in arguing with you. Liberalism, "...political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics". This one is good too, "...is the belief in liberty and equality", but, you must believe what we believe in order to get anywhere. I find it odd that they preach the latter statement but then try their damned hardest to constantly rid the world of religion in schools and what not. They claim in inflicts harm on those of other religions, but what about those that have that religion? They don't have rights anymore. When prayers are taken down, the religious have to no say in the matter. They are flushed out by people who claim, "in the belief of liberty and equality". Quite possibly the biggest hypocritical group of people in the U.S. It is not the Republicans fault we are here. It is the liberals and this administration. This could have been fixed by Barry from what George did. But he is unqualified and has no intention of thinking about us, only himself and themselves. It's amazing to me that people will support someone who doesn't care about them. But, when shit hits the fan, somehow "I told you so" just won't cut it. Perhaps you should look into the report that was given to the army on how to construct "civilian labor camps". It's quite interesting. Especially since it was dated 2005.
I'm not going to argue with you and your ridiculous ideas on political theory.

What I will do is set you straight on some chain of events.

We have been socialist since the founding of our country. Socialism only became a dirty word when the neocons took hold of the government and likened it to communism ignoring the fact that they themselves were more socialist than the totalitarian military dictatorships they were fighting.

Even though I said I wouldn't do this I'll give you a little, socialism is when we all pay in and we all get benefits. We both use the roads, parks, CLEAN WATER, radio, tv, schools, even the FDA and USDA are great when they actually do their jobs, and we can't forget the social medicine we do provide(VA health system) is some of the best in the world. None of that is robin hoodesque wealth redistribution and ALL of it was created under real bipartisanship.

Back to chain of events again. We were the most prosperous nation the worlds history until when exactly? Oh that's right GEORGE MOTHER FUCKING BUSH. Lets repeal all controls on the most important industries to our currency's security. Lets jump right into two wars with no positive outcome and fire any and all generals that aren't on board. Lets spend like there's no tomorrow, it's not like I'll have to worry about it after my second term. We to go Bush jr. You turned a solid up swing in the economy into bursting bubble that caused a multi industry crash that very nearly destroyed the country and may yet still destroy the currency.

Do you honestly think Obama reached out through time and did that? The worst I can say of Obama is he hasn't done enough. Then again how could he with republicans blocking his every move, even when it's a republican move.



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Religion in schools was settled before your parents were born. Find your own battles. Don't rely and their rhetoric to define you and what you find important.
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