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Originally Posted by westboroughpimp
And for all the guys that put down the 712 after i suggested it, you blindly posted without reading my post. I didnt say it was a good grip tire..i said not so sticky, soft sidewall, and only semi-decent. Dont be so quick to make your stupid comments. Everyone knows the 712 isnt anything compared to a victoracer, or a Azenis, or T1-S..give it a rest. IMO it's a decent tire for what this guy will use them for. If you want something like the Azenis, obviously you dont consider the 712. You consider tires like the V700, RA-1, the Ecsta MX..etc. High grip ,fast wear, and dont count on drifting with them.
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I still disagree. I think they are poorly made (I can;t tell you how many I've had to rebalance because they get out of round quickly), i've seen many of them just turn to shit and not last more than 20K miles. I've had a friend pull consisten 2.0' 60s then, about 2 weeks later, pulled numerous 2.3+ runs. They turned to shit on him. You're right, if you need a cheap tire to just get you on the road because that new set of wheels are the only ones you have for your daily driver, Ecstas will work fine. If you are looking for any kind of performance for any kind of time, look elsewhere.
I also agree with you about nittos. They're dry performance is alright, and they absolutely suck ass in water.