if you want performance and dont want to call yourself a ricer or, oh , im sorry to be politically correct (in out world), TunErZ, and want Nittos you must die.
711 and 712 are great for slip so dont shit on everyone parade. as far as grip they wont compare to 220a temp tires like like the same damn MX. or azenis sport. BUT SO WONT THE PRICE DIFFERENCE
want some grip for less $$? get a pair of wheels for some victoraces or even kumho MX. stock se wheels will do fine. just get used to jacking up the car and changing wheels to save $$$. you gotta be a homo to roll on the street with victoraces. waste of fuckin dough.