[mikespeed95]

Originally Posted by old_s13

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thats all you need, 4pt harness w/ anti-submarining design and a roll bar with harness bar, simple as that.

for those of you who think 5pt is NECESSARY you're fucking out of your minds, stock is 3 point, congrats.. 4 is more than sufficient. I would imagine 5pt being usefull for people who want the safest RACE setup..

you are 100% wrong on your "theory"

i wouldnt describe stock as a "3 point". there are 2 belts, not connected in any way /fasion or form. one lapbelt adn one shoulder harness. when you have an accident the lapbelt shoudl catch, and your body will fold forward, and the shoulder belt will catch you, while yoru head flies wherever it wants.

with most ricer tyte 4 points, since they are all connected the force from you taht the upper belts is trying to catch pulls up the lapbelt, breaking ribs/puncuring lungs , and even possibly if you dont like the way it feels letting your lower body actually come up under the belt.

5 points stop the lapbelt from coming up, basically makign a complete web to hold you. a 4 piont has noothign holdint the bottom down, thus the submarining. stock belts are sinlge straps, that dont interfere with each otehrs jobs liek a 4 point.

sorry for being rude, but pelase learn what you are talkign about. also looking at your pics, i dont see how those woudl not submarine. ESPECIALLY with how you have them setup, look at them, they are coming up even when undone! if there was a body in those the lapbelt would be nowhere near where it needs to be if you connected the single buckle, which is also horrendous design. I hope you dont get in an accident with that setup, youll wind up just like dale after the wall owned him at daytona.