[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by g35gabby

But the point is, you are selling it for something that is beyond perfect and without defect. It isn't priced like a car that needs new bushings or ball joints, it is priced like something that is a certified pre-owned. That is the point howdy....

a beyond perfect would be showroom kept 0 miles and thats worth something like $20,000 or better. More and more as the years go by.

And it doesnt need bushings or ball joints. It doesn't even need tie rod bellows. It will go 150,000 miles the way it sits. Yeah the TC rods and subframe bushings will fail. And maybe even the shocks. But thats to be expected once it gets up past 100,000 miles. I was only saying "what IF it needed part 1 2 3..." but it does not. 240s tend to weather mileage, and years, very well. Thats one of the things I love about them.

So if you know that people should be servicing things and swapping things out than what genuine value is there to your "all OEM worn out original awesome"? It no longer continues to be "original awesome" if people are going to be having to service all kinds of stuff anyway. so you are just marking it up for what should be a ~6-7k worth of car so that someone can buy a low mile shell of sorts? I mean you understand that the engine, transmission, suspension, and everything else is going to be replaced as you just suggested yourself. Must be the "low miles seats" that you value so high then?

You just need to own a few of these cars to appreciate this one. I've had my share and learned from experience the value is in the chassis, not the engine or transmission or bushings or suspension. There is value in having a clean chassis that you know has not been twisted or bent. That would be worthless if these cars were made EN-MASS, but these are not. There is a rarity aspect here that divulges value based on the ability to find this particular chassis with no modifications. How many Un-Modified 240's are left out there? The pool continues to shrink daily. And when there is only 1 left, whether its got 300,000 miles or 600 miles, it will be priceless. Otherwise, you are left sorting out somebody elses wiring... or whatever

There is no value in fixing a dealerships warn control arm, compared to some hack job's control arm.... yet you still seem to miss that concept. People are trying to get your to grasp that, and yet.... nothing. Maybe someone who write a book about it, o... wait KBB does.... and says even in excellent condition this car is only worth $6065. Not that it is a perfect representation of that, or that KBB is always right. Just that it is at least being closer to real.

I dont want anyone changing anything on my car except me. It depends on the part- thats what determines the degree of a ruined car. A control arm is not as big of a deal as a core support. I'd rather undo a hack job's wiring harness swap than a dented quarter panel. Every piece of the puzzle adds up individually. When a car has never been in an accident, and has never had a new engine or transmission, the FSM should still apply.


This car will go 150,000 miles without changing anything except the oil. Everyone knows the subframe bushings and TC rods are going to fail around 100k. But the car will still drive. It will probably make 200,000 miles or more.

And if I listed it for sale 10-15 years from now with 150,000-200,000 miles, blown shocks and blown subframe bushings and blown TC-rods and leaky power steering, no accidents, with pictures and proof of maintenance, I guarantee that it would fetch $7000 or more, thanks to rarity alone.

So If that is the case, and nobody can disagree with that being the case, why on earth would I let it go for $7000 today? Or even $8000? Or even $10,000? IF I sold for $10,000 today I would basically be giving up 10-15 years of driving a car for $3000 difference in price.

Where else can I lease a car for 10-15 years for $3000?