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Old 11-02-2013, 01:59 AM   #30
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lol all these guys are frigan jerks. let me help you out broseph. i dont know if you know the basics on 240s but here it is:

So you have s13 240's (1989-1994) which is going to be your best bet because they go for about half the cost of s14 240's (1995-1998) and they are a couple hundred pounds lighter which lighter is always bettter although the s14 flex points are way better and overall is a more stable chassis but dont worry about that right now just swoop up an s13. i wouldnt spend anymore than $2000 for a good running stock s13. i got my s13 shell for free. i dont know how the prices are in florida, but in northern california its like a 240sx grave yard. you can find 16 year olds driving 240's around every corner and theres like a minumum of 4 pages on craigslist worth of 240 parts in this area every day.

the s13's came with two different motors a ka24e (which is a single cam) and a ka24de (which is a dual cam). get a dual cam dont get a single cam. lol and make sure its a 5 speed. lol and the guy talking about civics drifting hes just kidding no fwd shit. gatta be manual rwd. KEEP THE STOCK exhaust and air box on it. if you know anything about back pressure and valve rim overlap for naturally aspirated cars you will know that throwing some afermarket 3 inch frigan exhaust on it loses power and the stock air box is the coldest form of air because its plummed to the outside of the car. everything else is just aftermarket hot air waste your money intake. just do a simple tune up plugs, wires, filter, all your fluids, and get your timing right. thats all you need to worry about for the motor for now. starting with the stock power is good because it will train you to have to weight transfer harder and use your speed and momentum to keep the car sideways instead of relying on power to do it all for you, that way when you get more power it will be easy for u.

ok now for suspension you must have a welded diff. vlsd is too unpredictable they are old and shitty and they sometimes open up mid drift. just weld it solid. in cali a wleded diff goes for 80 bucks or if you have an open diff in your car and you know a welder you can pull it out and have him weld the spider gears together. it literally takes more time pulling it than it does welding it, its real easy and it takes less than an hour to pull the diff. make sure the gears are cleaned off very well and theres no gear oil left on them or the weld will suck and might break. for now i would just get EMUSA coilovers they are only 400 bucks on ebay and the most important part is they are way stiffer than stock and you can go pretty low with them, unless you have the money to buy good coilovers, but like that guy said its really all about the spring rate and most important part is getting a better spring rate than stock and lower the cars center of gravity because they are like monster trucks stock. i would just use SE wheels you probably dont want to buy 17 inch rims because your going to have a tough time spinning them with the amount of power your going to have. i would try to run the least amount of camber in the rear as you can so you dont spin out every time u try to transfer back and forth and a decent amount of camber in the front so u have some tire on the ground for when your at full lock. get a drift button on the e-brake they are only 10 bucks that way you can use the ebrake without it locking and maybe a steering wheel that your comfortable with. thats all you need to do to the car and your ready to start learning comfortably. should only cost around 2500 bucks if u do it right.

now like that guy said you need to learn how to drive first not just drift. i dont know how well of a driver you are but i know i first started off road course racing so i had the whole concept of Apexing, oversteer, and understeer down. go hit a couple of track days and get used to the car, or do what everyone on zilvia frowns upon and hit the mountains and get down the concept of entering a corner and accelerating through a corner and not using your brake in the corner. feel the cars breaking point where the rear tires begin to brake traction and get used to the 240. they are amazing cars they handle just as good as they drift if u set them up right. then when your ready to drift take it to a skid pad day, or take it to and empty parking lot like every on zilvia frowns upon, and get down drift nuts... no not donuts.. so all you do is so at a stop, turn the steering wheel full lock in one direction, in first gear clutch in, rev the motor up as high as u want and then dump the cluch as hard as u can. the rear end is going to kick out and the car is going spin sideways but stay on the gas. now if u keep holding the steering wheel in that diresction your just going to do rodeys (gangster muscle car donuts), thats not what your going for you are trying to do drift nuts, so contrary to your natural instinct, you need to literally let go of the steering wheel, let the steering literally slide in your finger tips and the car will literally correct itself. let the steering wheel keep sliding in your hands until the car is now doing a big circle instead of just a spin, then catch the steering wheel and hold it there but stay on the gas the whole time. now u can just play with the gas (throttle on and off) and do bigger and bigger cirlcles. put a few cones spread apart and try to do a big circle around them all. and DONT forget to practice it going the opposite direction. you want to be comfortable both ways. this is the basic concept of counter steering clutch kicking and thottle control. now once you master it both ways try to do figure eights. so to do a figure 8 all you have to do is perform a drift nut and then mid drift nut let off and the car wheel transer the other way then instantly get back on the throttle while letting the car counter steer. this will train you to tranfer between corners so you can connect drifts. you will learn that connecting drifts corner to corner is way funner than just hitting one corner. once you've mastered the transfer and the figure 8 now its time to hit a corner. WHOLE nother ball game here bacuase now you have to master the intiation, weight transfer and speed. find a very wide corner with round curbs and no poles lol or go to the track. now this is the fun part. this is where knowing how to apex comes in handy. similar concept to apex in road racing but you start the corner way earlier becasue your going to be sideways way before the corner. this is where everyone goes wrong they dont use enough speed and they start the drift in the middle of the corner which is all wrong its not a drift if u start it in the middle of the corner its just a power slide then. a drift is initiated way before u get to the corner, its called phat dopey fresh long initations. and THE MORE SPEED the easier it is even tho your fear will tell you otherwise. start off in second gear here. your going to have to watch videos on this because its hard to explain i recomend watching the drift bible or 'in car' videos of pro drifters or have some guy that looks like hes good at the track take you for a ride and study him. i always enter the corner wide, about mid range in my RPMs, and weight transfer the shit out of the car (you basically flick the steering wheel towards the inside of the corner super hard) and then clutch kick at the same time you flick the steering wheel. dont be a bitch with the clutch kick rev that sh*t up to red line and dump that clutch hard. you have to time the weight transfer (flick of the steering wheel) and the clutch kick perfectly, then once the car kicked out sideways do the same concept as the drift nuts and let go of the steering wheel let the car correct itself and let the steering wheel slide in your fingers. there will be a moment where your off the gas but once you catch the steering wheel get back on the gas hard. aim the nose of your car at the inside of the corner then extended your drift to the outside of the corner almost to the curb. im usually sittin on rev limiter hard and extending the shit outa my drift all the way until my rear bumper clips the other curb. its easier to straightin the car out if u stay on the throttle hard until the car is perfectly straight dont let off abruptly.

then after that u can learn manjis and 3rd gear and connecting corners and using the ebrake to extend the drift and slow down and all that fun stuff but learn all that other stuff first. hope all this helped and god bless man.

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