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Old 01-21-2014, 09:19 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by steve shadows View Post
Power FC is fine if you're looking at sub 425 or so whp.

I've done these remotely all the way up to 400 whp on stock bottom ends with L-jetro unite (i.e. I wasn't even at the dyno physically - via remote desktop/join.me sessions).

So they are definitely solid units. The thing you have to take into consideration is the price. The Power FC L Jetro (used) is a great great value and I would recommend it over any other option (please don't use a piggy back on your car...if you're spending less on your EMS than what you spent on your rims you have engine failure in your future...I can almost guarantee it).

The catch is, from my experience, the FC Logit (Data Logit) fom New Zealand is really the most user friendly way to tune these (Not the PFC software in my opinion). However they both work.

If you're looking at a pfc that is going to run around the same cost as a Haltech EMS then I say go with the Haltech with the plug and play package.

I usually recommend Haltech if the build is going to be above 400 whp goals. The unit is a lot more detailed to use, it's not a simple cell matrix for each map (although it does have that as the core output for cell by cell for the map either in VE or by injector flow rates) but you can get the hang of it.

Otherwise there are dyno shops that will help with Haltech almost anywhere in the US and Canada now.

One of the reasons I started offering support remotely for DIY'ers and other tuners is because in some cases they don't have a shop that is local to them to help them tune the more complicated units properly. There is a big difference between a dyno operator and a dyno tuner and frankly a mechanical engineer.

So all in all, PFC, easy way to start, i.e. my first EMS/Standalone is great for sub 400 whp and will get you a long long way on the SR. If you go D-Jetro you'll have no problem going up to 500+ whp if the base point and tuning is solid.

If you're ready to take the plunge go for the Haltech EMS. I can email Haltech in Australia in the evening and get a response back within minutes there if there is every a hardware issue etc.

AEM is a good unit but the CAS dizzy swap thing on a lot of the past units is not exactly plug and play but I do understand they rushed the units to market. I have been to a few of their training classes and it is a great EMS. Haltech and AEM basically go back and fourth tit for tat copyin each other.

For units that are not PFC, Haltech or AEM. Again I really recommend thinking hard about rushing into more horespower. Save the money, do it right.

Megasquirt has come a long way. But I haven't seen anything else so far that is a true standalone EMS (apart from the ones I just mentioned).

If you guys have other questons feel free to email me directly, have a lot of experience and although I am not very active on the forums lately I am still doing consutling on buids and happy to answer specific questions for free if I have time.

Good luck in choosing your EMS!
tl; dr

wheres your pictures and dyno graphs? Guy is looking for a tuner not a book.

I have tuned cars over 800RWHP with power FC. Sounds like you need more experience.
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