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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Wow you so missed some real facts. first off while you think the 510 was cult status from a pure marketing standpoint it was a runaway hit. It was produced for 5 years from 68-73 they sold hundreds of thousands of them. Actually much bigger numbers than 240sx's. you could not blink in the mid 70;s without seeing a 510 in some form. They were in every rental car fleet.

So it was the Dodge Neon of 1968?

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Now lets go into the amazing racing heritage of the car. It alongside the Z swept IMSA and SCCA in the early 70's .

Kinda like how the Dodge Neon was a big SCCA hit when launched? Remember the ACR version?

Originally Posted by drift freaq

It beat out the BMW 2002 and Alfa Romeo GTV for championship titles 3 years straight.

Yet both of those cars command significantly more esteem and value today.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

The double punch of it and the Z is what put Nissan on the map here.

100% Agree.

European Styling at a fraction of the price in a competent reliable package.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

The Z cemented the pure sports cars group and the 510 cemented the daily driver econobox/sports sedan crowd. For two generations of kids succeeding its release it was the entry level sports sedan to own.

Yet those kids grew up to be middle aged men who now are the driving force behind the insane pricing of Air Cooled Porsches, 60's Corvettes and Classic Muscle cars.

I have never once met anyone that waxes and wanes like you do. I suspect if I ever did meet someone they'd say "yeah, had one back in school, fun car. Ya know what was hot thou, my buddy had a '71 Challenger RT. Bright red with white vinyl interior and a 360 with air-grab. My god that car was amazing. Fool sold it when he got married, I bet he regrets it now"

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Much like your beloved 240s except Nissan actually sold lots more 510's.

Chevy sold a crap ton of Chevettes too, what's your point? The 510 was the Sentra of it's day. The only thing is, all cars back then had RWD.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Truthfully more people remember Datsun 510's than people who actually remember NIssan 240sx's in the general public's eye.

Meh... you'd have to take a survey. I do know most people think the 240sx is just a later model of the 240Z.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

That is just a fact whether you chose to accept it, its reality. The 240sx is the epitome of cult status in the U.S.

If the 240sx is a "cult status" car, then the 510 is a forgot relic (much like the RX-3, 70's Celica et al.).

I can't go in a Barns and Noble and thumb through a ANY magazine ever making reference to the 510. There is almost always one magazine talking about a 240sx part or a 240sx feature car. It's the Japanese Mustang.

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

say hello to actual bumpers and headlights that match nissans current design language a bit more closely and say hello to a 5/6 speed manual tranny mated to a new generation 2.0 liter turbo engine pushing 215+hp!

215? Is that some sort of insider rumor or just your own speculation?

I pray it will be closer to 300, like 297 closer.

Hyudai's 1.6l Turbo is putting out 201hp and the Volester gets 25/35mpg.

Fiesta ST is also a 1.6l turbo making 197hp with 26/35mpg.

Originally Posted by simmode1

Now, where you need to be throwing some vitriol is on the 510 forums. Their hate for this car is completely irrational to me. Whereas this car isn't the new S-Chassis we asked for, it is EXACTLY what they asked for and they're on the warpath with torches and pitchforks.

Interesting.

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

i think the issue with the IDx is that people were expecting a silvia, not the Ford/Chevy inspired retro path Nissan decided to take.

This.

The problem is, if the IDX is to tug at the heart strings of former 510 owners, it's in the wrong market segment.

Asking 16-25 year olds to car about a car made 40 years ago and that they have likely never seen is a stretch.

The 510 is no where near as iconic as the Mini Cooper or VW Beetle and it's not cute and cheeky like a Fiat 500.

I just don't get it.