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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

funny. i know of guys w/ turbo zs who run w/ stock turbos and a RELATIVELY stock setup that runs high 11s lows 12

its all about the driver!!

i believe a local so cali guy w/ a z32tt has 700ish rwhp on his z32tt. no its not like a supra but its also not a i-6. different kind of car.


i think your talking out of your ass.

btw, supras are HEAVIER then a z32tt! HAHA

now who's talking out of their ass here?
stock turbo Z32s DONT run 11s OR 12s... you MIGHT see one run 12s on a good launch but for the most part they run 13s!!! I know; I've seen too many to count and I used to OWN one!!!
Z32TTs are unreliable in many ways, they are heavy and stiff which makes them FEEL like they handle well but they are relatively mediocre, the SupraTT and the RX-7 of the 93+ generation ran circles around them...

the 700rwhp Z prolly still runs high 12s... i remember Kyle Puckett a few years ago having some 650rwhp and running 10.60s at 144mph... pathetic, should have been in the mid 9s along with Ari and a few other cars at similar mph

Supras are NOT heavier than a Z32; they weigh just about the same... you shouldnt even compare the two cars in the same sentence...

Originally Posted by Toso

The reason you dont see more of them at the track is because of the price. You see tons of civics and integras there. Does that mean they are the ultimate car? What does that say about cars you never see at the track? Does that mean that the Lotus Elise would be horrible for AutoX? I kinda doubt that. I'll admit that they cost more to upgrade than a lot of other cars but you get what you pay for.

no the reason you dont seem them at the track is because they suck at auto-x and they suck at drag racing... the Z is prolly good for roadracing, but there ARE better cars out there... there are auto-x guys out there with money; and guess what they race? miata's, WRXs, and RX-7s... not to mention DSRs and done-up C4s and C5s...


Z32 N/As have no aftermarket for being FAST is the world I think the guy meant to say... turbocharging their NA motor leads to many problems

Haha, have you driven one? Not entertaining? I would be willing to bet that a stock Z32 handles better than your S14 with your mods. All that and almost twice the power stock. You're right, that doesnt sound entertaining does it?

i SERIOUSLY doubt it; while the Z has loads of grip; the S14 with suspension mods would drive circles around it, its far lighter and nimble, tracks better, responds better, etc, etc, etc the list goes on... the ZX was never meant to be some big handling car; it was built as a grand tourer from the beginning... it does several things well; and some things not so well; its more of a jack of all trades

Maybe its just me, but I think the condition of the car is a little more important than the age. There are plenty of older cars that I'd love to have.

I hear you, I'd love to have a 240z or 280z with a L28ET swapped in just as a fun car (or better yet a RB25 )

I'll agree that they aren't blindingly fast. But I'd wager that its still faster than your car.

prolly the same speed; Z32 NAs run 15s with a decent driver

So you're implying that the Z32 has no potential? Lets examine that. I would be willing to bet that given the same mods on an S14 and a Z32, the Z32 will make more power. We probably shouldn't even talk about the difference if we put the parts on a TT. Upgraded suspension will do about the same for each car. Have you ever thought it was interesting how a decent amount of stock Z32 parts are upgrades for S chassis cars?

I seriously doubt it; the VG30 would probably explode or overheat or something, trust me I know from experience... upgraded suspension just makes the Z corner stiffer; it does nothing for its portly 3500lb curb weight and horrible anti-squat suspension (which doesnt help that its already heavy)...
its interesting that a lot of Z chassis parts are upgrades for S chassis because the Z IS SO FREAKING HEAVY.... the Z32TT brakes SUCK HARDCORE IN A Z... why are they better on a 240? because the 240 weighs 800lbs less... the car has bigger and stronger things on it because it HAS to... same reason you have monster brakes on dumptrucks to slow them down or really beefy rear-ends to handle the torque... same principle applies here

I dont hate the Z32, but I know exactly what it is after owning LOTS of BETTER cars... its a jack of all trades GT car meant for pimping around in and light performance driving (top speed runs come to mind with the .29 cd)... I do hate, however, Z32 owners that think they are the biggest shit in the world because they own the most powerful (and heavy) Z made... the Z could have been so much more but Nissan used a V6 instead of a I6, and it was far to heavy to be anymore than a grippy touring car...

your condescending attitude towards a 240sx owner is exactly what I cant tolerate; you act like the S14 is such a lower car than a Z32...