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Old 08-07-2015, 01:24 PM   #36
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Prepare yourselves for a wall of text, but I thought of what I believe is an acceptable comparison.

First off no, Hoonigan is not praised for the nice cars because it's extremely rare that nice cars represent them. I think the only cars I enjoyed with Hoonigan stickers were Animal Style at FB.

It's like the OP sort of somehow stated for some reason I'm still confused about; Nike isn't known for supporting "overweight criminals" because it's not very often/newsworthy that a fat criminal's shoes are priority.
In the same regard, Hoonigan is not known for the nice cars and good driving because it isn't very often/common that people see that stuff.

Nike is known for athletes going hard in their shit because that's what we always see.
Hoonigan is known for shit cars because that's what we always see.

Let me break this down in what will probably be my last post in this thread;

I'd like to start by again saying no one denies the dudes at Hoonigan can drive and are probably nice people. (Hoonigan supporters seem to get easily defensive about that for some reason. No one bad mouthed them personally.)

Anyways, recently Hulk Hogan was absolutely banished from World Wrestling Entertainment because of recordings that had Hogan using racial remarks.

(Bear with me now.)

Yes, it was a bonehead move by Hogan and Wrestling in general, but the WWE had to remove Hogan from everything. No more bio online, no more t-shirts, no more action figures, nothing. He was even removed from the Hall of Fame. No warning. No mention. No explanation.

Now surely not all athletes who wrestle and not all fans who support wrestling hate Hulk Hogan, nor are they all racist. But to the people that aren't fans of wrestling, all they know is Hulk Hogan. To them, Hulk Hogan is wrestling. So if Hulk Hogan is racist, wrestling is racist. Therefor WWE had to take a very large step in order to make a bold statement that it was not linked with racism.
WWE may not have been happy to let him go, but they have to do so to maintain their image. Is all of WWE racist? No, but they had to make it clear that they do not participate in that lifestyle/way of thinking.

This is comparable to drivers and fans of drifting who want to make bold statements to distance themselves from Hoonigan (as a brand!) because of the poor image it portrays on the whole motorsport industry. Hoonigan hasn't touched every sub-class in motorsport but most of the ones they participate in, they are usually the team of immature and irresponsible drivers that everyone is shaking their heads at. In the meantime, it has become such a large brand because all they do is sell t-shirts and stickers and zipties so anyone who has $5 can represent them. The largest known brand of our sport/hobby/interest is promoting this sort of lifestyle/driving to people who may be interested or developing. (ie, leading them down the wrong path or turning them off of the sport completely. Also making the entire sport/class look bad in the same sense Hogan made WWE look racist.)
Members of the community feel the need to distance themselves from Hoonigan so as not to be considered another idiot driving a shit pile because Ain't Care is the cool attitude to have in Jr High.

It's been mentioned already, a lot of us are grown and would like to not at all be related to anything Hoonigan represents, so we must make it clear that we do not participate in that lifestyle/way of thinking.
Are all Hoonigans drift missile idiots who destroy shit for fun? Probably not, but that seems to be what they represent.

I think the bottom line of disagreement is that most of the Hoonigan supporters are under the impression that I personally hate Ken Block and Ryan Tueuerurekck and would burn Hoonigan HQ to the ground.
That is not the case. I hate what Hoonigan has become.
The young community of half-assed cut-corners-on-everything teens have taken Hoonigan and ran with it and they aren't coming back. So sorry to the original fans and supporters and creators, but it's long gone and forever hated as an idea, mindset, and lifestyle.

You can try to argue that that's not what Hoonigan is about.
But that is what it is about.
That is what it has become and forever will be.
Any respect they might have had, they handed over to their younger audience by trying to make motorsport a budget hobby.
It never will be.


Hogan may not be a racist, and Block might not be a ziptie everything dickhead, but that's how the world will see them.

hats off to you if you read this all.

tl;dr - i'm all for putting miles on my car and enjoying every foot of them but my car will remain maintained, clean and in order.
let your girls vagina rust out and break and ziptie all the ebay pieces back together and let me know how that works out for you.
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