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Old 05-14-2018, 07:03 PM   #945
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tlieberman240 my apologies. I will walk back my statement. No problem.

My two questions still apply. Thanks for taking the time. It's just very difficult to get a straight answer from folks outside of Fox News talking points unfortunately
Sorry for the late response. Work has been chaotic. I actually had my response typed out, but I decided to cut it down a lot because I’m sure most wouldn’t read my full response. So, I’ll try and keep it brief. To be fair though, may arguments I see from others are nothing more than CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, etc talking points.

But honestly, I don't watch Fox. Don't even have cable lol. Rarely even go to their site for news, because I can't stand Fox.

First, I didn’t vote for Trump. Reason being is because I don't think that he possessed the necessary qualities or attributes that I believe a presidential candidate should have. There are quite a few other candidates from the Republican party I would have preferred.

Second, I believe many people were just voting for who they believed to be the "lesser of two evils". Both candidates were severely flawed. The problem I see, from people of both sides is the hatred that is so easily spewed towards the other. I see so many people on the right immediately calling those with left leaning ideologies things like "libtards", "snowflakes" etc etc, while those on the left calling anybody with right leaning ideologies -especially those who supported Trump- "racist" "hateful" "bigot" "nazi" "white supremacist" etc etc. Neither is productive. Then both just turn around and call each other hypocrits lol.

I have friends/family on both sides of the aisle, politically and they're damned good people. Hard working, intelligent, honest, caring, and courteous. None of them want to see the world burn. Any reasonable citizen wants to see the country succeed and progress; the difference is what method we believe will get us there.

For myself, I believe our government is too corrupt, selfish, lazy, and incompetent, and are often incapable of handling their already given responsibility; thus, I’d prefer if we, as a people, didn’t give them any more. That being said, by political preference is more conservative/libertarian than liberal or progressive.

I only bring this up to be transparent with my political views. Now, onto HRC.

Few things I disliked. First, the “basket of deplorable” statement. Divisive, and goes back to what I said above. Are there shitty people who voted for Trump? Absolutely. Are there shitty people who voted for HRC? Absolutely. The vast majority though? Doubtful.

Next, the e-mail scandal. People will roll their eyes about this. I’m not hooked on this, however, my problem is the lack of accountability. The whole “there was no criminal intent” doesn’t stand with me. A sailor was jailed for taking a few photos of a classified area. HRC has an abundance of emails containing classified info on a private server and hardly even a slap on the wrist. The fact that she seems to be above the law is what irritates me. Regardless of who it is, I think people (especially in government) need to be held accountable for their actions.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...iminal-intent/
http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lear-submarine

Next is the topic of guns. I’m 100% pro 2A. Not a fan of the NRA or any of that nonsense. Though I do believe I have the right to defend myself and my family. HRC seems to have negative views towards the 2A and her proposed method of handling it have seemed to flip flop over the years. That being said, I’d rather not have her in a position which can impact the status of it. I can keep going, but I’ll stop there to keep it brief.

Now, with all of this in mind, I’ll say that Trump really isn’t any better. He’s severely flawed and has said some things much worse. Again, he wasn’t my first choice. Most people have a specific issue or set of issues which they find most important, and vote according to that. For some people, that’s health care issues, to others that’s income tax, to others that’s the 2A, etc etc. That being said, if I HAD to vote for one of the two on election day, I would’ve voted Trump simply because his campaign statements aligned more with what I found important to myself. My candidate didn’t make it passed the primaries though, so that’s that. I was also much more conservative during the elections, but have slowly drifted to being more libertarian.

That’s really it. I believe as though Hillary has obtained the status of being above the law and seems to be untouchable. I think she should be out of public service indefinitely. I hope that better candidates come along for 2020.

At the end of the day though, I think people should just be able to live their own life without the government or “offended” people interfering in everything.

So long as you’re an honest, respectful person who doesn’t have intent to harm me or my friends/family, you’re welcome over at my house any time. We can hang, have a couple drinks, work on cars, shoot the shit, eat some killer food, go to the shooting range, whatever. The instant you want to start insulting me or my family or show hostility/animosity simply because our religious or political views differ though, then you can get lost.
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