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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Addicts are people who can recover. They aren't lost causes.

Except they are lost causes.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

They don't want to be drug free because they are physically or mentally (or both) addicted to the effects of a drug.

And like a 3 legged dog, they won't grow back the forth.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

They do, however, want long-term solutions- do you think an addict wants to be couch-surfing and going through life from high to high with no possibility of long-term existence?

Yes, go talk to them. That is exactly what they want. If you would just give them a free place to trash, universal income check and all the drugs they could ever want - they would be perfectly happy with that.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

They may have started using as a coping mechanism for sexual assault or to try and self-medicate for PTSD or an underlying condition. They need psychological help and long-term therapy.

This is a debunked fallacy. 70% of those "traumas" take place after addiction and typically BECAUSE of addition. You get sexually assaulted by someone while high or attempting to get high. You get robbed or beat up trying to buy or sell drugs or while high. You're traumatized cause you BFF Overdosed or again any number of crimes and incidents that happen related to drugs.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I mentioned this in the other thread- Portugal decriminalized drug usage and what happened? Drug-related deaths fell, drug-related incarceration fell, and rates of drug use are consistently below the EU average. Yes, the rate of high-risk opioid users is higher than the European average, but it's lower than prior to decriminalization. HIV diagnoses plummeted and are still low. Health spending dropped. Social costs dropped.

Portugal is not the United States. People are not interchangeable, contrary to the leftist beliefs.

Want to get people help? Stop sending them to jail. Start treating them like people who have an addiction, rather than like criminals.

Why not just say "get tough on crime and drugs! Scottdale doesn't put up with BS and they have no Homeless problems like San Francisco!"

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I'm surprised your solution isn't "send them to the Central Valley and to the Imperial Valley to replace illegal immigrants."

If I was California's Comrade Govertator, I'd build Rustic Rehabilitation and Relaxation Communes out in the wilderness. 3RC.

Semi-Electrification, Clean Water, Natural Sanitation systems, basic whole-food nutrition. Camp Members would be expected to perform maintenance task, education and training would be offered. All the drugs they want would be available. Limited Frontier Free Healthcare also available - you know, bone setting, aspirin, antibiotics, experimental vaccines.

They can waste their days away in palpable, environmentally friendly living conditions away from society. Certainly more humane then letting them pilferage through garbage cans and shitting in front of Starbucks while begging for change and stealing anything not nailed down.