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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree
Have you tried conversing with people for whom facts are fluid and dependent on the perceived bias of the informer? Have you tried to have conversations with people whose method of argumentation is the gish gallop?
It's nearly impossible. The goalposts move second by second. Whataboutism is the name of the game.
My brother and I have stopped talking politics with our dad specifically because it's impossible and everyone involved gets frustrated, then things get nasty.
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Yes. I was forced to work with a lot of them in the military. You can't escape it.
...but by writing them off aren't we doing what these 'banhammers' are doing and forcing them underground?
I know it's not our job to change anyone's mind and it's fucking exhausting. I guess I'm all for keeping the dialogue going even if you 'hate' the person across the table from you. If you wanted to 'go to battle' with these people one day it would be a good thing to already be privy to their side of it so you can pick apart their argument at it's weak points and have counterarguments to their at that point 'anticipated') replies.
Meh. Maybe that's uncharacteristically idealistic of me.