best 205/60 15's?

[rancid240]

i have a few in mind, falken ziex 502, yokohama etc. &nbsp;want to spend <60 on the tires. &nbsp;regular driving and maybe some autox if i ever get into it...recommendations? also, when they say treadwear 260 etc do they mean a tread of 260mm?

[adey]

I take it you meant 'less than $60 per tire', not less than 60 for all 4... or did you mean less than 600 for all 4?

I'd recommend something like the Yokohama AVS ES100 (new tire, replacing AVS-Intermediate, I think) which has a treadwear of 240 or so. I've heard nothing but good things about these tires, and am considering them for use on the next set of non-15" rims I get. (I 'stocked up' on 15" AVS-Is at Tirerack's blowout price...)
Furthermore, the older AVS-Is had a measly 160 treadwear which is easily in the bottom, BOTTOM level of tire lives!

I don't know my tires particularly well, especially outside of Yokohama and Dunlop... I have a set of Dunlop FM-901 205/55/15s on my car right now, and like them a lot. they performed very nicely on the track, and provide adequate grip in the wet considering its a 'summer' tire.
The only drawback for you would be that its treadwear is a low-ish 200.

Treadwear, btw, is a pretty arbitrary number. a 200 treadwear Yoko may last longer (or not as long) as a 200 treadwear Goodyear or Dunlop. "Performance" tires usually have a treadwear around 200 (give or take 40), while touring and all-season tires will have a treadwear closer to about 350 give or take 50.
I couldn't say how many miles you'll get out of a 200 treadwear tire though, that depends on how hard you drive it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> My Dunlops have about 2,500 miles (a very rough estimate) on them so far, and still seem to be holding up very well... if you ignore the little bit of sidewall that was shaved off from my inner fender.

[Itsuki]

Yokohama AVS ES100 is a very good tire in my opinion, i recomend them...Tire rack does sell them for a very good price..

[Jeff240sx]

Kumho Ecsta 712. &nbsp;Z-rated tire with like 300 treadwear, but grippy as hell. &nbsp;They are in the 60-80 range.
And it's not just me reccommending them. &nbsp;Do a search for a recent tire question, and a dozen people like them.
They aren't the BEST tire, but they are the best for that price range, IMO.
-Jeff

[luke91]

I know for a fact that you can buy 295 50 15's at Pep Boys for $39/tire. &nbsp;

What you need to do is order some custom steel wheels in the necessary offset and width to accommodate these monsters, install a LSD, and just blow 'em off!!

Everywhere you go, you should leave behind two fat, black patches. &nbsp;

--luke

[rancid240]

i dont plan on going past 115, i think all you guys know why. &nbsp;Again, the biggest issue is value and a decent treadwear so they actually last. &nbsp;I am surprised no one has vouched as of yet for falken, i am seemin to edge toward some of those. &nbsp;and adey i did mean about $60 per tire but will spend more if i see it necessary. i am trying to decide where to buy them also, i will need balance/installation, i am thinking about victoriatire.com. &nbsp;anywhere in los angeles for that matter.

[adey]

Falken Azenis have a pretty low treadwear (180?) if I'm not mistaken, and have shit wet traction once you wear them down to about 70% tread or possibly even more.
They're great for the track, but not so good for a daily tire is probably the general consensus.

edit: I'd love to take you for a ride on my FM-901s if you want! After all, we're both in LA... and in the same school for that matter! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[AKADriver]

The old school AVS Intermediate is a blast in this size. &nbsp;The ES100 looks like a nice replacement.

Keep in mind that these are summer tires, if you need traction in snow or lots of water, you might want to look elsewhere.

[Replicant_S14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Nov. 13 2002,02:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Falken Azenis have a pretty low treadwear (180?) if I'm not mistaken, and have shit wet traction once you wear them down to about 70% tread or possibly even more.
They're great for the track, but not so good for a daily tire is probably the general consensus.

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They're great for auto-x but they get a little soft for the track....but yeah, it's a 180 treadwear figure. I street mine and they're fine. They just don't last.

I think he's talking about the Ziex tho. I haven't really heard anything about those yet. I'm curious about them too.

[rancid240]

I am in Los Angeles=no snow and little rain. &nbsp;But i would like some wet traction, and yes i was talking about the falken ziex, the azenis are a little to track for my needs. &nbsp;i need a good daily driver tire with track capability, you never know when i will have to deliver pizzas again.

[rancid240]

I have narrowed it down to a few tires. &nbsp;Prices are from victoria tire which is in los angeles.


Falken Ziex ZE-502 $43
TREADWEAR :420
TRACTION :A
TEMPERATURE :A
Look nice, but looks arent too important...

Yokohama Avid Touring $53
TREADWEAR :[/B]620[B]
TRACTION :A
TEMPERATURE :B

Yokohama AVS intermediate $43

Yokohama Avid T4 $51

Will an all season tire wear faster than a summer tire?

[adey]

do you plan on tracking/autoxing the car at all? if not, by all means go for the highest treadwear possible (like that 620 one!! ) but if you'll be tracking it at all, I'd stay away from the Avid T4 and Avid touring... well, actually all the ones you mentioned other than the AVS-I. &nbsp;
Re: falken ziex -- I've not heard any first hand experience, but what I have heard has been pretty poor. they're obviously not as high performance a tire as Falken Azenis, Yoko AVSi, AVS ES100 or Dunlop FM-901.

[Replicant_S14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rancid240 @ Nov. 13 2002,9:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have narrowed it down to a few tires. Prices are from victoria tire which is in los angeles.


Falken Ziex ZE-502 $43
TREADWEAR :420
TRACTION :A
TEMPERATURE :A
Look nice, but looks arent too important...

Yokohama Avid Touring $53
TREADWEAR :[/B]620[B]
TRACTION :A
TEMPERATURE :B

Yokohama AVS intermediate $43

Yokohama Avid T4 $51

Will an all season tire wear faster than a summer tire?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I say try the Ziex so that you can tell me how they are later on : )

Seriously though, a UTQG of around 400ish sounds perfect to me for a commuter tire on a 240. Sure, a 620 utqg tire will last forever but it'd be a shame to have such a nice handling car with rocks on the wheels. The intermediates won't last any longer than Azenis. So, I guess, those Avid T4s sound like what I would get. I'm pretty sure the Ziex are rated at 340 (H) and 300 (V,Z ).

[sykikchimp]

hey replicant.. what track is that in your pictures on your website?

[Replicant_S14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ Nov. 14 2002,12:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey replicant.. what track is that in your pictures on your website?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It's Talladega Gran Prix Raceway.

http://www.tgprace.com/

[r34 gtr]

the best way to get tires is to get someone who works at firestone to get you semi-used ones for free. i got some brand new bridgestone potenza pole positions for free because some idiot changed them.

[rancid240]

One more ?

Are these the best size for 15x7 rims? &nbsp;I know other sizes will fit and i am having trouble picking what size. &nbsp;my car is not dropped and i dont plan on doing so anytime soon, unless i get a good deal on rs*rs with agx.

[adey]

"ideal" size tire for 15x7 on our cars would be 215/55/15, I think. However, 205/60 and 225/50 will also work, as well as probably 2 or 3 other widths (probably 185 and 195, but probably not 235...) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[Teb74]

While on the subject of tire sizes... I just purchased some new wheels and needed to get a set of tires... Just curious what everyone would recommend for 16X7's...:eh:
Thanks

[adey]

I should be sportin' some 16" rims soon (in 7 and 8" widths)... I'll be going with 205/55/16 all 'round if possible. Yes, that means that my rear tires will be stretched somewhat... but what the heck right? It just means a more even, smooth and predictable break-away! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

edit: "ideal" size for 16x7 on our cars is, I believe, 215/50/16. You can easily go up to 225/45/16 or down to as narrow as 185/65/16 or so, if not more.

[240fluke]

Wow, you have a huge range of tires in just a few selections. &nbsp;You are picking between an S rated, a T rated an H rated and a V rated tire if I am not mistaken. &nbsp;Depends on what you are going for. &nbsp;If you want track time out of the car, then Definitely stay away from the Avid Touring and Avid T4 (as a matter of fact, I would probably stay away from these anyways as I don't believe the 240 came equipped with anything below an H rated tire from the factory). &nbsp;

The Falken Ziex, well... I work at a tire shop and I don't even like these tires (although the new ones the Ziex ZE-512's are a little better). &nbsp;These tires really liked to cup and are not particularly great handling tires in either wet or dry in my opinion. &nbsp;If you are going with a Falken tire that lasts, try looking at either the ST115's or the FK451's (both of which would be the tires that I would choose to run for a street tire by Falken, or the Azenis for Track time). &nbsp;

The Dunlop FM901's are supposed to be pretty decent tires from all the reports I have heard about them. &nbsp;Kumho Ecsta 712's are excellent "bang for the buck" tires (many people are happy with them). &nbsp;But if you are a VERY AGGRESSIVE driver, you probably won't be super pleased with these tires as they don't really perform near what other EQUIVALENTLY rated tires perform at. &nbsp;BUT they do a very good job in wet weather, are quiet and LAST. &nbsp;The Kumho's are fun tires to play with though once you know their limits as you can easily get them to break away when you want them to.

If you can still get them, the AVS Intermediates are supposed to be AWESOME tires, but they won't last a long time. &nbsp;You can also look at the Bridgestone Eager's those are good tires, my buddy has them on his RX-7 and really loves them.

Well, those are a few options I can think of for you to go on. &nbsp;Hope some of this helps.

Tim '95 SE

[rancid240]

Now that is a newbie that doesnt deserve the name. &nbsp;Your post may have been the most helpful i have ever read. thanks

[rancid240]

Bought the rims today. &nbsp;They came with 205/60s all around, 2 falken azenis st115 in good condition, 2 yokohama dna g.p.s that have medium camber wear (still deciding wether to replace or not) Any suggestions on locking lugs? &nbsp;The lug hole in the wheels is 2.5cm. thanks

[rancid240]

What do you guys think about running yokohama neovas up front (205/55) and 205/60s in back?

[Replicant_S14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rancid240 @ Nov. 17 2002,02:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What do you guys think about running yokohama neovas up front (205/55) and 205/60s in back?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I dunno, but those thing look badass.

[adey]

not to mention you can't get them (Neova) in the states! (Or at least, last time I checked! ) These are a Japan-only tire from Yokohama/Advan.

[rancid240]

Adey, you are forgetting my JDM skills!! I have located a set of neova 205/55's, my only concern about getting them is the .8" disparity in total diameter with that of a 205/60.