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Old 08-03-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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Irritated, my rant.

Ok...so for the last year or so they have been building a 4.5 mile track about 4-5 miles away from my house. Now most of you would be thrilled...tons of sweeping, banked turns.. long straights, etc etc.

But heres the kicker. Its a members only track.

This means:
•no open track days, EVER.
•never even seeing the thing in person
•no WATCHING races
•nothing. no fun....ever.

To become a member, its $100,000...plus another $7,000 every year after that. Its much more than just the track, they have an on site hotel, spa, etc etc. Jeff Gordan, Jerry Seinfield, and others are all members (they already have quite a few hundred members already and they JUST had the opening ceremony for it.) They drive their $500,000 benz through some of the poorest areas in the state (particularly Monticello - where the track is located), while everyone else is just struggling to get by.

Its upsetting that here's something that could be really beneficial to the area (its a very poor area - highest AIDS and teen preg. rate outside of nyc) and they're doing nothing but catering to the over indulgent playboys who want to drive upstate to abuse their 4 million dollar ferrari. I have no problem with someone who works hard for their money enjoying it, but that all inclusive attitude just gets under my skin. Even if they had open track days once a month, I'd be happy as hell. The warehouse I work at drops of tons of material to the track, and the construction workers were even saying "yeah...we're building a track we'll never see, or ever be able to drive on"..its like an ongoing joke with everyone.

Its not jealousy thats fueling this rant..I'm thinking more about the community that could prosper from it. With a track like this, It would bring in tons of people. New hotels would open, shopping, etc would open up...and hell...maybe the unemployment level would decrease a little..

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Old 08-03-2008, 11:42 AM   #2
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I hear that.Theres one being built Here in N.C near Moorseville (30-50mins outside charlotte) and its the Same Shit.

Hotel/Condominiums w/ Garage Paddocks next to the track.its like $200k to join and $10k a year or some crazy Shit.
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fuck that's BS. i'd totally drive out there once a month for a track day.

total bs.
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Noo need to rant. You'll have an opportunity to drive it.

From what i have heard the North Track is private. The southern track has open to the public hpde events scheduled for it.

http://www.pdadrivingschool.com/article.php

Track opening in SNJ
http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/
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Just charge it! Wait till the rich assholes get all comfy and feel safe and just charge out onto the track and don't stop till you need gas!
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Well, zilvia is going to have to incorporate so we can all get rich and use that track.
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yeah its an awesome place...i mean...look...helipad anyone? lol

i was thinking about breaking in during the night and tearing it up....i'd be worth the night in jail.
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yea theres one near me like that.
ive been out there a few times becasue i have a friend thats a member.
similar price to join..like 80k i think.

its a super nice track.
they have land you can buy to build your own garage and living area, etc.
a few shops trackside too mainly catering to the bmw/porsche owners.
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Thats sounds like the barbers reactrack here in birmingham except he is a cool buy. They havee track days every now and then and it cost about $350.00 to run out their. His track is just as nice as all of these too. I cant wait till my car is ready. LONG LIVE THE SOUTH
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there was actually something about that track in new york on tv a couple days ago. Like a lifestyles of the rich and famous type thing.
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$100,000?

Go to school and start a better career.

I'll hit up that shi 10 years from now :P
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damn, talk about a swift kick to the balls. that track layout looks freakin' sweet too.
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Yeah that place is definitely fun, had my 240 airlifted there last week.
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damn, talk about a swift kick to the balls. that track layout looks freakin' sweet too.
the real kicker is the changes in elevation...


but, im leaving for school in sept. ...after that I'm just moving to a warmer area with more tracks open to the general public..
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the real kicker is the changes in elevation...


but, im leaving for school in sept. ...after that I'm just moving to a warmer area with more tracks open to the general public..
Good move.

Really sucks, I bet those guys dont even drive hard haha.
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maybe employs get to drive the track?
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maybe employs get to drive the track?
talk about benefits. WHO needs healthcare? not I.
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what do u expect, were in new york... new york isnt the most "race track" friendly state in the united states...

on another note 100k?!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! lol i like the sabotage idea.. anarcy baby
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why not break in and spray "Open this track to the public" in big fat letters on the track? that would at least give it some Nuerburgring flavor
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Good God, that's bullshit. I don't understand the attitude of catering entirely to the small stupidly wealthy community while the other 99.99% are completely ignored.

I live in a military town; you can throw a rock in any direction and hit a naval base. You'd think that with the way the economy is, and the number of low- to middle-income military families around, they'd be putting up more affordable housing. Nope. "Prince Edward Estates," a complex of monstrous cookie-cutter houses that all look exactly alike and probably cost $800,000.
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what do u expect, were in new york... new york isnt the most "race track" friendly state in the united states...

on another note 100k?!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! lol i like the sabotage idea.. anarcy baby
Track is in monticello, about 90 miles north of nyc (around 2-2.5 hours by car if you factor in hitting traffic.) Its on the site of the old monticello airport.


Guys, check out the site www.monticellomotorclub.com
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I think that is very unfair. I live in Ottawa Ontario and recently (Within the last few years) There was a track built about 45minutes away from my house located in Calabogie. It's the longest and one of the nicest tracks in Canada and even THEY have open track days. Mind you to participate your car can not be over 92Db on a flyby and it cost's 400$ for the day, but at least they allow it to be open for anyone who can afford it.
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Thats kinda what VIR is, but it's not exclusive to the rich, they are very good about combining both worlds, the rich and the average.

It amuses me you all act like it's a crime against humanity. A race track isn't a public service, it's an investment. Just like private golf courses and the like.

It is kinda fucked that it's in a super poor area, and they don't contribute anything, but such is life I guess.
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So much better than a golf country club.

Sounds really nice.

maybe in the future they'll open it for the public, but I'm sure for the time being they want to make their money back and cater to those who can afford it for the inclusive lifestyle.

Can't hate.

To each's own.
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Its not really a big travesty... Its just like any country club where all they do is play golf except in this one, they have a race track.

Think about it... If you went through the trouble of somehow making a shitload of money, wouldnt you want to do things with a little exclusivity? I don't want some kid in a shitbox Civic running on the same track as me if I'm driving a 911 GT2 or something. That'd be like Tiger Woods going to a public golf course. It makes no sense.

I'm sure they'll open it to the public every now and again, but I dont think anyone should feel entitled to using this track. It's a private investment, they can do whatever they want with it.
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Its not really a big travesty... Its just like any country club where all they do is play golf except in this one, they have a race track.

Think about it... If you went through the trouble of somehow making a shitload of money, wouldnt you want to do things with a little exclusivity? I don't want some kid in a shitbox Civic running on the same track as me if I'm driving a 911 GT2 or something. That'd be like Tiger Woods going to a public golf course. It makes no sense.

I'm sure they'll open it to the public every now and again, but I dont think anyone should feel entitled to using this track. It's a private investment, they can do whatever they want with it.
you don't know the type of area this track is built in. And hey guess what...you can RENT a track...so you don't have to drive your gt3 along with an EK9...

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