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Which Coil overs to choose?
Well in about a month i'm planning on picking up some coil overs. I want them for drift events as well as daily driving. I had my heart set on Tein HE, then a friend told me Tanabe's are really good as well as JIC and HKS. Let me know what you guys think.
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I've been dissappointed with my HEs. I'd avoid them. Additionally, TEIN is phasing them out, in favor of the (hopefully superior) Super Drift.
The Buddy Club coilovers seem very nice, good build quality and design. I haven't driven on them, but I've heard good things from those who have. Certainly, inverted monotube and seperate compression and rebound adjustment are great for the price. In the lower price range, people seem to like the KTS quite a bit.
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my friend has the fla-2's on his S13 now... the build design is really stupid... when we were swapping the fla2's on his other s13, on the rear coilovers... when we were tightening the coliloveders on, the stud was actually getting loose.... so we had to take apart the pillow ball, and use hex keys to make sure the studs were absolutely tight so they wouldnt loosen when we tightened on the nut when it was on his car... also there are stories that they like to break in half... and finally GL trying to get JICs rebuilt... could take weeks to months, or not even happen..
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Yeah, the main complaint with JIC seems to be the service and support. I know a guy who has a similar setup to me, except for FLT-A2s, and he likes the way they handle. The Teins I have, as I mentioned, are a bit rough. The quality just doesn't seem up to par. The edges are a bit rough, they don't seem to fit together perfectly, they're 16 way adjustable, but there's not enough difference between 1 and 16, and the valving is a bit rough, it really feels like too much fluid trying to fit through too small of a hole.
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I just put in a pair of Tein SS's on my '93 vert and I love it. Wife hates it. It was a pain to get in because I was a klutz, but they run fine. Only comments I have are that the instructions are pretty crappy, and I have a squeak coming from one of the rear shocks. (probably a loose nut that I'm to lazy to tighten)
As for the adjustable control - I disagree with Shin - I did feel the difference esp on the 405 today... I had 4 clicks softer than center and I did feel a bit softer... or who knows it could be that I WANTED to feel that way... |
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kei office, I have kei office xr's and they are amazing ride quality is stiffer than stock but so much smoother. I love them and everyone that rides in my car is amazed. Plus they handle so good and are very controlled. If you dont want to spend that much $$$ the lower kei offices the xt's I believe are still amazing and ride just as good just dont get the monotube fronts still get hieght adjustment seperate of preload I beleive. My friends s13 with them rides very nice and handles good. In my opinion I have not seen a set of JIC's that I have liked for any car even other than a 240sx teins are good and cheap but the he's are pretty stiff and ride is a little harsh and flex's are undersprung but ride nicely. my opinions from what I have seen and all I can say for sure is the kei office xr's kick a$$
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master of drift..you forgot the sarcasm tags in your post.
RM A8's are good. One of the few coils that offer a 8/7 rate which in theory should provide less understeer. Also they come with an eccentric bolt you can use to push out more camber if the camber plates aren't enough for you. Guy with the HE's.. what dont you like about them specifically that you like about another coilover that you've driven with? Most ppl are happy with them around here. My friend loves his set. I even like my HA's except for the soft spring rates. Another guy went from HE's to KeiOffice XR...he said HE's are better worth the money. I myself was looking at Tanabe DD or anything similar with valving for 10/8 springs. But they are only 4-way adjustable. i guess it doesnt really matter too much but it's nice to have.
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^ wesbouroughpimpizzle
i did forget the sarcasm tags : / meh anyways like people said before ultimately it is your preference you can't try out every coilover personally so its good to be able to ask other people what they think of certain setups I personally have HE's and have driven or ridden, and or done research on kyb setup, tanabe dd, kts, He's, HA's, K sport, and megan racing HE's are great I have no complaints about them they are just stiff enough have adjustability and are durable thus far. Drivin 2 years on them still holding up to my abuse K sport and whatever other variations of this coilover I would have to say are not worth the time or the money spent on them. I just have seen so many complaints about their craftsmanship and performance I would not bother getting them. kts are very good coilovers for the money i see them as HE's but cheaper and buffer. Megan racing can fall into this category as well however I have not done too much investigating on these. I like the kts especially because for the price you are getting inverted fronts as well as good spring rates etc. high end Kei office and tanabe DD's are my holy grail coilovers or apollo or anything like that. the 4 way adjustability is totally practical because the dampening range is still the same as say a 36 adjustable coiliver but who would be able to feel a difference between 1 increment of adjustment personally i think 4 way adjustability is easier faster and more relevent. felt like i had to contribute because of the retarded post i made earlier |
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What about Zeals... My friend has em on Subaru Sti, and he says they very easy to rebuild.. Got an opinion?
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I have the Tein Driving Spec Super Street Damper Coilover System on my 240 and it is awsome. You can adjust the damping to pretty much to what ever you want and set the ride height easily.
It handles really nice too. I would recommend getting a camber kit to be able to align it if you get it lower to the ground. My tires were wearing out really quick until I put the kit on.
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right on dousan, and dude its TOE not CAMBER eating your tires, I've had -2 in the rear for years and the wear is pretty even, last long time..
a camber kit cant be anything but a pair of weak eccentric bolts for the rear anyway, hopefully your coilovers have camber plates? |
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I was talking about the front end and toe is obviously the most important wear angle. Camber is one of the angles that is affected most when lowering a vehicle and will cause the inside of the tires to wear pretty quick in my case. I put on about 80 miles a day.
Yes it has the plates in the back coilovers. When the car is sitting as low as mine tire wear will become a problem. I was just saying that this is a really nice kit.
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hahahah time for me to interject some info here as well.
all tanabe coilovers are twin tube last i checked. even thier 2000 dollar dd setup.. the tien he is twin tube as well. but is not discontunied for their super drift setup hahaha.. Also.. megan racing / d2 /k sport etc.. i wouldnt buy em.. Not my style.. they a little crappy.. not much service w/ them. And i don't know but are tanabe's serviceable in us? another thing to note is jic sucks.. their customer service blows... It gives me migranes trying to work w/ them. also gp sports are hot silkroad are hot and Zeal is the shit. zeals ride sooo good even for high spring rates. they just tune their coilovers very well/.
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