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Shypo · 11-30-2009, 04:35 PM

I have a pair of VS-KF in 17x10.5 but the offset is pretty weak (around +35 iirc) and Instead of running gigantic spacers or saving them as drift wheels, I was wondering if anyone has tried to flip VS-KF wheels with any luck?

Obviously the offset will go crazy negative and I'll have some massive lips if it works, just wanted to see if anyone had experience as I don't fancy undoing all those bolts to find out shit aint going to work.

soreballz · 11-30-2009, 05:17 PM

Depending on your car setup (stock body/overfenders, camber, ride height, etc), you really wouldn't need a terrible large spacer for those rims. If my math is right (it probably isn't lol), a 10.5" +35 is about the same as a 9" +17, which is close-ish to being flush (on a stock body S13, anyway).

None of that was relevant to your question, but, eh.

Good luck.

kris · 11-30-2009, 06:24 PM

In short it should work as the KF is a true 3 piece wheel. The face should unbolt no problem however the barrels do not come apart as Work tack welds them together in the manufacturing process then seals it with a bead of silicone.

However, when you say "flip" you mean make the outer side of the wheel become the inner and vice-versa? If your KF's are like mine it will look horrible. My Inner is not the polished yumminess that the outside is. Mine are just a painted gray finish on the inside with a stepped lip. Perhaps yours are different but doubtful. Then again they do have different disks for the face so perhaps the disk also changes the barrel used plus the fact yours are the "old" ones cause they don't make 17's anymore

I hope this was helpful if you try it, post up I would like to see what it looks like and good luck

Shypo · 11-30-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soreballz

Depending on your car setup (stock body/overfenders, camber, ride height, etc), you really wouldn't need a terrible large spacer for those rims. If my math is right (it probably isn't lol), a 10.5" +35 is about the same as a 9" +17, which is close-ish to being flush (on a stock body S13, anyway).

None of that was relevant to your question, but, eh.

Good luck.

I have an S14 with 30mm overs bowed to 40mm, I'd need a f**king massive spacer lol. Like somewhere in the region of 50-55mm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris

In short it should work as the KF is a true 3 piece wheel. The face should unbolt no problem however the barrels do not come apart as Work tack welds them together in the manufacturing process then seals it with a bead of silicone.

However, when you say "flip" you mean make the outer side of the wheel become the inner and vice-versa? If your KF's are like mine it will look horrible. My Inner is not the polished yumminess that the outside is. Mine are just a painted gray finish on the inside with a stepped lip. Perhaps yours are different but doubtful. Then again they do have different disks for the face so perhaps the disk also changes the barrel used plus the fact yours are the "old" ones cause they don't make 17's anymore

I hope this was helpful if you try it, post up I would like to see what it looks like and good luck

That's exactly what I needed to know, thank you. I had a feeling the bead was tack welded undernetah all the silicon shit on there.
Mine also have that stepped lip but I was going to paint the wheels all one colour or leave the spokes polished whilst the dish was painted so it wouldn't be obvious that they've been flipped.

If I find some spare time I'll do it, otherwise, In the shed they go until I have something they fit LOL

articdragon192 · 12-01-2009, 01:06 AM

Valve stem would be in the wrong position. It'll work and all, it'll just be pointed inwards and would look odd if you flippedit outwards

Matej · 12-01-2009, 01:12 AM

People do it with old school small diameter wheels, and while it can look good, they are usually going for a different look. VS-KF's are big and classy, and even if it turns out to be possible to do, it would be goofy. Just sell them to an S2K owner for example, and buy better-sized wheels.

anton1o · 12-01-2009, 01:48 AM

What numbers do you get when flipping center's for arguments sake lets say you have +20 does it just inverse and become -20 ?

Mister.E · 12-01-2009, 02:54 AM

no it would not become -20, it will ultimately depend on the width of the wheel.

ZilviaKid · 12-01-2009, 08:14 AM

if theyre like my old vsxx then you cant flip them.

the lip is stepped so you cant fit the face through there.

Shypo · 12-01-2009, 05:25 PM

Thanks for all the comments guys.

Zilviakid: I think you're 100% correct, I don't think I'd even be able to fit the faces past the steps in the lip.. Guess I'll sell these stupid things

Tearlessj · 12-01-2009, 06:07 PM

I've thought about doing this to my Equips, then realized it was a bad idea.
Anyone know the formula for calculating the sizes after flipping?

silviaguy240 · 12-01-2009, 06:58 PM

negative of the original offset - width of the face - a few mm for the mounting area thickness.

so say equip face is 60mm deep and mounting area is 10mm wide. 10 +20 would turn into a 10 -90

11-30-2009, 04:35 PM	#1
Shypo Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VS-KF Flippable? I have a pair of VS-KF in 17x10.5 but the offset is pretty weak (around +35 iirc) and Instead of running gigantic spacers or saving them as drift wheels, I was wondering if anyone has tried to flip VS-KF wheels with any luck? Obviously the offset will go crazy negative and I'll have some massive lips if it works, just wanted to see if anyone had experience as I don't fancy undoing all those bolts to find out shit aint going to work.

12-01-2009, 01:06 AM	#5
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Valve stem would be in the wrong position. It'll work and all, it'll just be pointed inwards and would look odd if you flippedit outwards __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

12-01-2009, 08:14 AM	#9
ZilviaKid Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Age: 34 Posts: 1,441 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if theyre like my old vsxx then you cant flip them. the lip is stepped so you cant fit the face through there. __________________ 2004 Nissan 350z 2002 Nissan Silvia

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Tearlessj Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis Age: 32 Posts: 1,907 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I've thought about doing this to my Equips, then realized it was a bad idea. Anyone know the formula for calculating the sizes after flipping? __________________ Nagasaki Motors Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.

12-01-2009, 06:58 PM	#12
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 35 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	negative of the original offset - width of the face - a few mm for the mounting area thickness. so say equip face is 60mm deep and mounting area is 10mm wide. 10 +20 would turn into a 10 -90 __________________

11-30-2009, 06:24 PM	#3
kris Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Dakota Age: 45 Posts: 241 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	In short it should work as the KF is a true 3 piece wheel. The face should unbolt no problem however the barrels do not come apart as Work tack welds them together in the manufacturing process then seals it with a bead of silicone. However, when you say "flip" you mean make the outer side of the wheel become the inner and vice-versa? If your KF's are like mine it will look horrible. My Inner is not the polished yumminess that the outside is. Mine are just a painted gray finish on the inside with a stepped lip. Perhaps yours are different but doubtful. Then again they do have different disks for the face so perhaps the disk also changes the barrel used plus the fact yours are the "old" ones cause they don't make 17's anymore I hope this was helpful if you try it, post up I would like to see what it looks like and good luck

12-01-2009, 01:12 AM	#6
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	People do it with old school small diameter wheels, and while it can look good, they are usually going for a different look. VS-KF's are big and classy, and even if it turns out to be possible to do, it would be goofy. Just sell them to an S2K owner for example, and buy better-sized wheels.

12-01-2009, 01:48 AM	#7
anton1o Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What numbers do you get when flipping center's for arguments sake lets say you have +20 does it just inverse and become -20 ?

12-01-2009, 02:54 AM	#8
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	no it would not become -20, it will ultimately depend on the width of the wheel.

12-01-2009, 05:25 PM	#10
Shypo Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for all the comments guys. Zilviakid: I think you're 100% correct, I don't think I'd even be able to fit the faces past the steps in the lip.. Guess I'll sell these stupid things