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1988montecarloss · 08-11-2014, 03:56 PM

i recently acquired a s14 zenki with a stock KA24de in it, only "mods" to it is the previous owner put a cone filter and exhaust on it, since i got it ive had to lightly hold the gas when i started it or it would stall out but it was no big deal as soon as it was started and moving it would idle and run fine after that, but today when i tried leaving the bank it would start, run for about 10 seconds and slowly idle down from 7-800 or so until it stalled out, i checked all fuses and they were all good and i can hear the fuel pump kick on and hear the fuel getting to the rail/injectors, i also checked all wiring connections and they were all good. i didnt have any tools with me so i couldnt check anything further than that.

any idea what it could be other than a fuel pump or fuel filter? maybe the MAF or TPS? crank sensor?

i plan on going back later tonight with some tools and a recharged battery (killed it trying to start it) and just trying to get some ideas of what to check before i go back

iBaSiiCk · 08-11-2014, 05:47 PM

check and see if the hose to the IACV is connected. If it is connected, the IACV might just be really dirty so just remove it and clean it up good with some carb cleaner. Then put it back on. If that doesn't help any then it will most likely need to be replaced.

1988montecarloss · 08-11-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iBaSiiCk

check and see if the hose to the IACV is connected. If it is connected, the IACV might just be really dirty so just remove it and clean it up good with some carb cleaner. Then put it back on. If that doesn't help any then it will most likely need to be replaced.

before making the thread i waited about an hour or so in case it was just flooded and it still didnt start and then when i went back 3-4hrs later to tow it home i tried starting it just in case and it fired right up and now its fine, turns out it was just flooded

id still like to know why i have to hold the gas when i start it though if anybody can help me out with that

djnicky240 · 08-11-2014, 08:16 PM

Possibly a good tune up. Replace them Spark Plugs and go with NGK

*brndck* · 08-11-2014, 08:22 PM

its possible you have a leaking fuel injector, or perhaps a bad fpr, that is not allowing the fuel rail to maintain adequate fuel pressure.

i would test fuel pressure first, then pull the rail and inspect for a leaking injector or bad o-ring. then report back.

crossway · 08-12-2014, 06:51 PM

Seems to me its a faulty fuel regulator. Check the fuel pressure it produce just to be sure. Also check the filter and the pump.

1988montecarloss · 08-22-2014, 03:45 PM

how would i check the fuel pressure? and what should it be at?

car is still acting up like this, if i shut it off and try to start it up within 5-10 minutes it does this everytime, if i wait longer in between starts its fine

MAGILLA · 08-27-2014, 08:22 PM

Change your fuel filter before anything. They clog and do almost exactly what you describe.

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turboboxer6spd · 08-29-2014, 01:08 AM

I just experienced a similar issue on my Nissan truck with a KA.

The FPR diaphragm was blown and it was sucking in fuel through the vacuum hose. Made for a crappy idle and hard restarts.

You could also pull your fuel rail and see if you have injectors leaking. Leaking injectors could be dirty, mechanical issue or electrical issue.

Usually on a flooded engine you can open the throttle plate all the way to "clear" the engine by adding more oxygen to all that fuel. After all there really isn't a gas pedal. It's an air pedal

08-11-2014, 03:56 PM	#1
1988montecarloss Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bardley Age: 31 Posts: 1,983 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	s14 zenki ka24de will start and die after 10 seconds or if the gas pedal is pressed i recently acquired a s14 zenki with a stock KA24de in it, only "mods" to it is the previous owner put a cone filter and exhaust on it, since i got it ive had to lightly hold the gas when i started it or it would stall out but it was no big deal as soon as it was started and moving it would idle and run fine after that, but today when i tried leaving the bank it would start, run for about 10 seconds and slowly idle down from 7-800 or so until it stalled out, i checked all fuses and they were all good and i can hear the fuel pump kick on and hear the fuel getting to the rail/injectors, i also checked all wiring connections and they were all good. i didnt have any tools with me so i couldnt check anything further than that. any idea what it could be other than a fuel pump or fuel filter? maybe the MAF or TPS? crank sensor? i plan on going back later tonight with some tools and a recharged battery (killed it trying to start it) and just trying to get some ideas of what to check before i go back __________________ IG: @Haley72692

08-22-2014, 03:45 PM	#7
1988montecarloss Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bardley Age: 31 Posts: 1,983 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	how would i check the fuel pressure? and what should it be at? car is still acting up like this, if i shut it off and try to start it up within 5-10 minutes it does this everytime, if i wait longer in between starts its fine __________________ IG: @Haley72692

08-27-2014, 08:22 PM	#8
MAGILLA Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 208 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Change your fuel filter before anything. They clog and do almost exactly what you describe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

08-11-2014, 05:47 PM	#2
iBaSiiCk Join Date: May 2013 Location: Whitehall, WI Age: 34 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	check and see if the hose to the IACV is connected. If it is connected, the IACV might just be really dirty so just remove it and clean it up good with some carb cleaner. Then put it back on. If that doesn't help any then it will most likely need to be replaced.

08-11-2014, 08:16 PM	#4
djnicky240 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In a Home Age: 46 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Possibly a good tune up. Replace them Spark Plugs and go with NGK

08-12-2014, 06:51 PM	#6
crossway Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Age: 51 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seems to me its a faulty fuel regulator. Check the fuel pressure it produce just to be sure. Also check the filter and the pump.

08-29-2014, 01:08 AM	#9
turboboxer6spd Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Age: 40 Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just experienced a similar issue on my Nissan truck with a KA. The FPR diaphragm was blown and it was sucking in fuel through the vacuum hose. Made for a crappy idle and hard restarts. You could also pull your fuel rail and see if you have injectors leaking. Leaking injectors could be dirty, mechanical issue or electrical issue. Usually on a flooded engine you can open the throttle plate all the way to "clear" the engine by adding more oxygen to all that fuel. After all there really isn't a gas pedal. It's an air pedal