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Old 06-04-2003, 10:48 PM   #1
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Driving Filterless

One of my rice-boy friends had a Cold Air on his Si. He hit a dog a few months ago and really f*cked the front of his car. The dog smashed his filter on his intake and messed some of the piping up on his intake. He said he was only going about 45 when he hit the dog, but as much damage as he did, I would say he was doing about 60-70. Now he took off his intake and filter. He swears that it wont hurt his engine but I don't believe him. Any insight from you guys?
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Old 06-04-2003, 10:59 PM   #2
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You have done answered your ?

You said rice-boy, that explains everything. Not a good idea at all. I have heard of hot rodders turning the top of the air cleaner upside down and bypassing the rosenator tubes. This is ok because it still had filtration. What your friend is doing is not safe at all. Although, I have seen turbo racing cars not putting a filter on the turbo (not a good idea in my opinion).
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Old 06-04-2003, 11:11 PM   #3
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the slight if any hp increase is not even close to being worth the risk of blowing your engine after sucking in debris like sand or salt
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Old 06-04-2003, 11:21 PM   #4
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I told him that everday day air has a ton of dust and dirt in it that can harm you engine. But he says it is bs. Stuborn Ricer!
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Old 06-04-2003, 11:36 PM   #5
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Hey.

Let him blow his sh!t up and he will learn the hard way. Freakin ricers and there rice-mobiles seem to never want to listen to techs like me in my area. I say f@ck it then. I told them I had a 240sx and they said "hey put an sr20dett in it." Der! Der! Der! I wish they actually knew of the many engine that can be put in the 240sx like ca18det, rb25det (mtf), rb26det (mtf), turboing the ka24e or de. They only know what super street tells them or the fast and the gullable tells them. I also don't like how super street talks badly about the ka24e, but says the ka24de with a turbo is bad sh!t. Then I get the crap from the domestic people saying I should drop a v8 in it.
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Old 06-05-2003, 09:30 AM   #6
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you see a lot of turbo guys put screen over the turbo inlet while tuning.
I sure wouldn't want to try no filter on my stock N/A car with no turbo or ic to possibly catch the debris.
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Old 06-05-2003, 09:38 AM   #7
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If he's so sure that driving filterless is no problem, then why does every car come with a filter from the factory? Certainly they could save some money by leaving that piece out
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Old 06-05-2003, 12:02 PM   #8
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If he's so sure that driving filterless is no problem, then why does every car come with a filter from the factory? Certainly they could save some money by leaving that piece out
{sarcasm}WELL DUH!.. they make lots of money selling filters!!!{/sarcasm} :hammer:


edit - made sure you could tell I was j/k
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Old 06-05-2003, 12:23 PM   #9
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Since when?! How many people do you know that get their filters at the dealership? (if they get them at all)
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Old 06-05-2003, 02:35 PM   #10
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The filter is there for a reason. It should be a no-brainer as to why one is needed for daily-driven cars.

If your ricer friend refuses to use one, let him. Make sure you laugh heartily in his face when he sucks up a rock and kills his engine. Add "I told you so, dumbass" for extra obnoxious points.
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Old 06-05-2003, 06:58 PM   #11
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Since when?! How many people do you know that get their filters at the dealership? (if they get them at all)
er... i got a new filter for the jetta at the dealership... maintinence is covered for like 4yrs or something and they replace the air filter every so thousand miles (i love the smileys!)
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Well that's under warrantee, so they'd be losing money
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so much hostility in this room. ricer this ricer that. the funny thing is usually people who say that are even more stupid than ricers, but yeah he should throw a sock in there or something, but to hit a dog hard enough to mess up your intakes threw the frame and bumper. how is the car even running in the first place?
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:55 PM   #14
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just imagine the grit and grime getting into his cylinders, scaring them up, scratching, ahhhhh it makes my skin crawl thinking about it

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Old 06-06-2003, 12:30 AM   #15
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no you dont need an air filter. I dont know why the engineers at Honda would even think up something so stupid
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i just put the extension on my injen intake the other night. i had to pull the filter on and off several times and i guess i didnt get it very firmly on there the last time i did it. I didnt reinstall the little panel under the fender/bumper that i removed to pull out the ducting that was in the way of the extension, because i figured it'd get alot more airflow without it and i have a friend that has run his like that for over a year without any problems. well, it tossed it on the 5 (fell right into the path of both driverside tires, so it gave me a hell of a scare) and bounced off on its own.

I'm running with a piece of pantyhose over the intake tube (3 layers of it, actually) to keep anything large from being sucked up. I'm going to get a new filter for it today. i dont think the grimey air is going to do too much damage in a day, the pantyhose should do a decent job of filtering and will definitely keep rocks and sand out
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