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JaeTea · 11-17-2004, 10:28 AM

So I spent the ENTIRE summer saving money to get my car ready in time for this event. My last two events I was running stock suspension and an open diff. To say I was nothing but frusterated and upset is an understatement.

After yesterday I can say you really only need two things for drifting. A clutch diff and good coilovers. A stock KA (SOHC) is more than capable of providing enough power.

I spent most of the day doing figure 8's, trying to get a feel for the car and how it behaves. Just getting comfortable with steering and throttle inputs. Kinda sux cause I burned through my tires super fast and had to sit out the last couple of hours.

I still have a problem just doing tight u-turn drifts as I have a HORRIBLE habit of countersteering late. I won't start my counter steer until I feel the ass of the car is perpendicular to the apex. By that time I'm at full lock with no steering left to give. I also have a natural tendency to floor the throttle when the ass starts to come around.

Definetly can't wait until next year though. Time to save up for new tires and ANOTHER set of rims.

pruto · 11-17-2004, 10:47 AM

don't worry about your natural tendencies and countersteering, a lot of it is overcoming intuition and getting it down with muscle memory. i'm glad you're having fun, and going about it the right way =). oh yeah, clutch diff is all you need to start having fun.

and yes, KA is plenty of power... until you start doing 3rd gear stuff and have long turns to connect. =p
its torque and hp are more than enough for 2nd gear courses, i.e. stuff to learn on.

Flybert · 11-17-2004, 06:06 PM

Add a nice bucket seat or super bolstered seat to the list of things necessary for drift.

gonzoes14k · 11-19-2004, 12:35 PM

I know how u feel my first time was just like that. Open diff lead to most of my spin out/not being able to carry them. Power wise stock (DOCH) was perfect tho my Lines where not good at all. Cant wait till my next one tho. Jaetea when lookout drift does some VA events you should come down.

Ghost Beat · 11-19-2004, 01:22 PM

what car were you driving?

JaeTea · 11-22-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Beat

what car were you driving?

I had the champagne S13 hatch. It had the "trucker girl" stickers on the side windows.

Ghost Beat · 11-23-2004, 11:57 PM

the one with the mesh wheels that was in the group with me? (me being the brown guy with the white s14)

Brian W. · 11-24-2004, 11:07 AM

Yeah, that was a fun lil event.. i know i had a blast.

Glad to hear your enjoying your diff!!

Edgar · 11-24-2004, 06:46 PM

What kind of diff were you useing? I agree with the coils

*revat619* · 11-25-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flybert

Add a nice bucket seat or super bolstered seat to the list of things necessary for drift.

I totally agree with you on that.

I still have my stock s14 seats and its becoming a real pain in the butt when I'm at drift events. When I have to keep shifting the weight of the car I fly all over the place and I always end up with a big bruise on my right knee from bracing myself against the center console. I mean im 5' 9" 155lbs, which isnt too small, but I swear the s14 seats dont hold me for crap. Now I've been in a car with a bride zeta III and that was awesome, it fits and holds me in perfectly. After that, I realized how much a seat actually helps. A zeta III is definitely on my list of things to buy before the next season starts. So if anybody has a zeta III for sale, let me know!

raging panda · 11-27-2004, 09:12 AM

I found the seat to be one of the very best mods to my drift car. I bought a seat before i bought my next 240, next thing im getting is the diff.

JaeTea · 12-02-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by edsxs13

What kind of diff were you useing? I agree with the coils

Nismo 2-way. It rocks!

Ohio Drifter · 12-07-2004, 08:53 AM

I agree!
Clutch-type diff is a must for any drifter (I have a Kaaz 2way and I luv it). Tension-rods help a lot while braking (they keep the caster's angle were it should be) and a negative camber on the front is good to have too. One thing that is not that important but also helps is the Drift-knob. I don't use much e-brake but they give me peace of mind when I have to. Plus they look great and are cheap, I bought my Cusco for 20 bux.
My KA24DE was no longer good enough for me. Like Pruto said, is hard to keep a 3rd gear slide with a stock KA. I'm turboing it for the next season (installing a BoostDesigns kit with + a Profec E-01 and some up-grades), I'm also installing a Clutch Masters kit and a B&M short shifter. I hope my 120k miles engine can handle it.

l33tmonkeyman · 01-19-2005, 08:40 AM

i am looking to get a TOMEI diff for this summer. I cant wait till i get that thing installed!!

supportTHEezln · 01-19-2005, 09:10 AM

I got a tomei and installed it a couple days after, good upgrade. And the noise isn't really that bad, and if anyone would complain about that noise but likes the sound of their loud ricey exhaust should go buy back their civic from whoever they sold it to =P

l33tmonkeyman · 01-19-2005, 08:54 PM

heh, if u buy something like a clutch diff, the noise better be expected or people should be doin waaayy more research before buying things... :P

StanBo · 02-01-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JaeTea

I had the champagne S13 hatch. It had the "trucker girl" stickers on the side windows.

You will do better this season. My tan coupe should be almost identical to yours soon so I will take you in mine to show you what entry speeds to use and when to start your drift.

Everyone was progressing well by the end of the day.

I can't wait for the season to start!

m_haiser · 02-06-2005, 03:17 AM

i feel so handicapped. ive got open-diff and an automatic :'(

11-17-2004, 10:28 AM	#1
JaeTea Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EC Posts: 967 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: JaeTea Feedback Score: 3 reviews	DGtrials Drift Clinic...Clutch Diffs ROCK!! So I spent the ENTIRE summer saving money to get my car ready in time for this event. My last two events I was running stock suspension and an open diff. To say I was nothing but frusterated and upset is an understatement. After yesterday I can say you really only need two things for drifting. A clutch diff and good coilovers. A stock KA (SOHC) is more than capable of providing enough power. I spent most of the day doing figure 8's, trying to get a feel for the car and how it behaves. Just getting comfortable with steering and throttle inputs. Kinda sux cause I burned through my tires super fast and had to sit out the last couple of hours. I still have a problem just doing tight u-turn drifts as I have a HORRIBLE habit of countersteering late. I won't start my counter steer until I feel the ass of the car is perpendicular to the apex. By that time I'm at full lock with no steering left to give. I also have a natural tendency to floor the throttle when the ass starts to come around. Definetly can't wait until next year though. Time to save up for new tires and ANOTHER set of rims. __________________ KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!

11-17-2004, 10:47 AM	#2
pruto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 982 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	don't worry about your natural tendencies and countersteering, a lot of it is overcoming intuition and getting it down with muscle memory. i'm glad you're having fun, and going about it the right way =). oh yeah, clutch diff is all you need to start having fun. and yes, KA is plenty of power... until you start doing 3rd gear stuff and have long turns to connect. =p its torque and hp are more than enough for 2nd gear courses, i.e. stuff to learn on. __________________ Paul Black and Red

11-19-2004, 12:35 PM	#4
gonzoes14k Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lynchburg,VA Age: 41 Posts: 626 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I know how u feel my first time was just like that. Open diff lead to most of my spin out/not being able to carry them. Power wise stock (DOCH) was perfect tho my Lines where not good at all. Cant wait till my next one tho. Jaetea when lookout drift does some VA events you should come down. __________________ "To establish the sports car, you have to race it," Zora Arkus-Duntov

11-24-2004, 11:07 AM	#8
Brian W. Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 40 Posts: 1,146 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Yeah, that was a fun lil event.. i know i had a blast. Glad to hear your enjoying your diff!! __________________ www.ma-motorsports.com -Fab work, builds, swaps, dyno tuning

11-24-2004, 06:46 PM	#9
Edgar Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 4,980 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	What kind of diff were you useing? I agree with the coils __________________ Drift Indy

11-17-2004, 06:06 PM	#3
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Add a nice bucket seat or super bolstered seat to the list of things necessary for drift.

11-19-2004, 01:22 PM	#5
Ghost Beat Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 36 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what car were you driving?

11-23-2004, 11:57 PM	#7
Ghost Beat Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 36 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the one with the mesh wheels that was in the group with me? (me being the brown guy with the white s14)

11-27-2004, 09:12 AM	#11
raging panda Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I found the seat to be one of the very best mods to my drift car. I bought a seat before i bought my next 240, next thing im getting is the diff.

12-07-2004, 08:53 AM	#13
Ohio Drifter Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree! Clutch-type diff is a must for any drifter (I have a Kaaz 2way and I luv it). Tension-rods help a lot while braking (they keep the caster's angle were it should be) and a negative camber on the front is good to have too. One thing that is not that important but also helps is the Drift-knob. I don't use much e-brake but they give me peace of mind when I have to. Plus they look great and are cheap, I bought my Cusco for 20 bux. My KA24DE was no longer good enough for me. Like Pruto said, is hard to keep a 3rd gear slide with a stock KA. I'm turboing it for the next season (installing a BoostDesigns kit with + a Profec E-01 and some up-grades), I'm also installing a Clutch Masters kit and a B&M short shifter. I hope my 120k miles engine can handle it. Last edited by Ohio Drifter; 12-07-2004 at 09:15 AM..

01-19-2005, 08:40 AM	#14
l33tmonkeyman Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Prior Lake, MN Age: 39 Posts: 215 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i am looking to get a TOMEI diff for this summer. I cant wait till i get that thing installed!!

01-19-2005, 09:10 AM	#15
supportTHEezln Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 552 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I got a tomei and installed it a couple days after, good upgrade. And the noise isn't really that bad, and if anyone would complain about that noise but likes the sound of their loud ricey exhaust should go buy back their civic from whoever they sold it to =P

01-19-2005, 08:54 PM	#16
l33tmonkeyman Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Prior Lake, MN Age: 39 Posts: 215 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heh, if u buy something like a clutch diff, the noise better be expected or people should be doin waaayy more research before buying things... :P

02-06-2005, 03:17 AM	#18
m_haiser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newport, OR Posts: 29 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i feel so handicapped. ive got open-diff and an automatic :'(