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Old 03-03-2006, 03:52 PM   #1
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A short movie about speed limit enforcement

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...745475&q=speed

I dunno what I would have done if I was behind these people.

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Old 03-03-2006, 03:55 PM   #2
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funny as hell.

the speed limit is more like a speed guideline and a revenue generator. +5 or +10 over is usually the norm.
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What they did was actually illegal though, (not that people on freeways don't drive 55 in the fast lane), but purposefully slowing down a lane of traffic without moving to the right is against the law.

I think it's great, but I can see how jamming a freeway won't get a lot of people behind your cause. I would've liked it better if it was just a single or double car driving 55 in the slow lanes, so as to piss people off to prove the point, but not stop lets say, an ambulance from getting to a hospital.

And yes, speed limits are solely for revenue gathering, that's why they'll never go away.
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What they did was actually illegal though, (not that people on freeways don't drive 55 in the fast lane), but purposefully slowing down a lane of traffic without moving to the right is against the law.

I would've liked it better if it was just a single or double car driving 55 in the slow lanes, so as to piss people off to prove the point, but not stop lets say, an ambulance from getting to a hospital.
A relative of mine is a paramedic, and something exactly like that slowed their ambulance down getting a person to the hospital. The person didn't die but the driver (he was protesting some road construction I think...not sure though), was charged.
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Speed limits are jokes. Just another form of tax, plain and simple.
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um its not illegal to slow down a lane if your going the limit, how can you get a ticket for doing the limit? u cant ticket the limit mothfawka.
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Research shows speed limits ineffective at controlling speed.

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The speed limit is there, we can cry all we want, but the fact is that its not going to change.
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LOL. You still suck. enforcEment

lol!

ok you got me. *sigh*

Anyways, back on topic. I agree that holding up traffic like that is a ticketable offense if you are blocking the way of an emergency vehicle. Especially if a human life/lives is/are in danger.
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Georgia Code Section 40-6-40(b):

Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the
normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

40-6-184:

(a)(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation.


Any vehicle going LESS than the NORMAL speed of traffic, wether its over the limit or not, is required to move aside for said traffic.
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^^^ that's just another example of how the speed limit makes no sense.

you can read that statute two ways:
1) the fastest anyone can go is the speed limit, so if the legislature is acknowledging passing, then they expect people to be driving under the limit on the freeway. (yeah right)

2) 'normal and reasonable' speed is simple faster then the speed limit... and staying at a 'normal and reasonable' speed would also be a violation of the speeding statutory provision.
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But the law understands that traffic will occasionally move at a faster clip, and to impede that traffic may cause an unsafe condition as people begin to get angry (Such as in the video) and make rash decisions (like passing on the outside, like the video).

So it states that willfully impeding that traffic is a crime as it puts others at risk. They could have made this same statement by driving 55 in the right 2 lanes, still had some people mad, but they would've had an avenue to avoid their protest via the left 2 lanes.

Anywho. Good video. lol
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The law makes no sense, but that's why we have officers and judges to enforce and interpret the laws.

During heavy rains or dense fog, driving conditions become unsafe at the normal posted speed limit. You're not breaking the law by driving the speed limit, but you ARE driving at unsafe speeds considering the road conditions.

That's where the police officers come into play. It is up to the officer's discretion whether or not to cite you given the circumstances.

Beyond that, there is court and a judge if you wish to contest the citation. That's where interpretation of the law comes into play.

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the only reason the people are mad about having to go the speed limit is that they are used to being able to go as fast as they want. if they were always limited to driving the speed limit, it would be normal and nothing would be wrong.

and i'm sure they would have let an emergency vehicle get through if one was coming.
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and i'm sure they would have let an emergency vehicle get through if one was coming.

I doubt they could see that far back, that traffic must've been backed up a mile.

I am not arguing against them , or saying speed limits are right, I was just simply stating that what they did was against the law, and there might have been better ways of doing such a study.
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ok let's say we're a mile back in that mess.

ambulance is coming, oh shit.
person one lane over can slow down so the person in front of the ambulance can change to that lane and let the ambulance through. then that keeps repeating until the ambulance gets to the front, and the people making the movie let it through too.

it's not like no one has ever been in bad traffic before.
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u drive to the flow of traffic, if ur a slow ass driver u stay on the right lane, ambulance comes u move to the right period... if a guy/girl is riding ur ass on the left lane going way faster then u are. considering u are driving normally.. and he/she is driving something pretty expensive... then u BRAKE check their ass...
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IT was funny, speed limit sucks! !@#$%$#%!@#$ revenue generators! Anyway, I always drive -5 below the speed limit. Yay.
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That's where the police officers come into play. It is up to the officer's discretion whether or not to cite you given the circumstances.

Beyond that, there is court and a judge if you wish to contest the citation. That's where interpretation of the law comes into play.

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officer's decretion is BS, empty freeway at 2AM with maybe 1 car in sight and they will still pull over people going 70-80+mph. all for revenue

as for the court and judge, that is also BS. again revenue controls it all, the judge will side with the officer and won't even listen to what you have to say. now if the courts were truly fair, then unless the cop has proof (ie radar gun records) the judge should throw the ticket out. because it is your word against his and if the cop says he was "pacing you", which are 95% of the freeway speeding tickets given, the judge will just take his word for it. but it will probably never change so we all gotta deal with it

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officer's decretion is BS, empty freeway at 2AM with maybe 1 car in sight and they will still pull over people going 70-80+mph. all for revenue

as for the court and judge, that is also BS. again revenue controls it all, the judge will side with the officer and won't even listen to what you have to say. now if the courts were truly fair, then unless the cop has proof (ie radar gun records) the judge should throw the ticket out. because it is your word against his and if the cop says he was "pacing you", which are 95% of the freeway speeding tickets given, the judge will just take his word for it. but it will probably never change so we all gotta deal with it

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You're taking my quote out of context. I was pointing out that it is up to the officer's discretion whether or not to cite you given the current driving conditions. Especially if you're obeying the posted speed limit. I'm not arguing that Citations aren't revenue driven. In fact i totally agree with that.
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When I was in Germany, it was so much better over there. No speed limit on the freeway. Just imagine you're driving your SR or RB 240sx on the freeway going 110mph and a Ferrari just fly by you
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um its not illegal to slow down a lane if your going the limit, how can you get a ticket for doing the limit? u cant ticket the limit mothfawka.
if the flow of traffic is running slightly faster than the limit and a cop is a dick he can write a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic. Yes, thats a ticketable offense. Its on the books in many states. Basically the law states that by impeding the flow of traffic your endangering yourself and your fellow drivers. You can also get a ticket for driving to slow, it falls under the same law.
Regardless of everyone feeling its a revenue generator, which to some extent, Cities and counties do use it that way, fact is the Bureaucrats came up with speed limits and traffic laws to protect the citizenry. Now, how effective all of this is becomes a tad questionable in certain circumstances. The 55 speed limit was originally put into law for politcal reasons. I.E. We were in a oil crisis( debate flies around the second oil crisis of the 70's legitamacy to this day) The President imposed the 55 mph limit to save gasoline. The whole 55 saves lives campaign came along later started by ultraconservatives bent on protecting their families regardless of how valid the statement was, it was how they felt.
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The whole 55 saves lives campaign came along later started by ultraconservatives bent on protecting their families regardless of how valid the statement was, it was how they felt.
Proof? Isn't Nader a lib and one of the orchestrators of the whole thing?
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