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Old 04-06-2006, 11:19 PM   #1
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For those of us on a budget...

Hope this is the right section for this, and I hope its not a repost but just saw this on FA and sounds like a good idea. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1
I went through the thread on club4ag.com... http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133867 ... and it seems like it might be worth a try....what do you experienced body work ppl think? Is it worth it?
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:34 PM   #2
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I might this summer when my girl gets another car and I have my other car to drive every day. If you really want some good details look at the thread on the hotrod forum....I wanna buy a fender just to try it on....I'm getting excited about this...someone slap me
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if i can't get a new paint sponsor before my car is ready, might as well try it.
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i've seen it on a few honda's.it looks pretty good.obviously no professional one but for 50 bucks it turns out great if you do it right
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NIce find! I'll do this on my celica.
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Shit I'm gonna try it, what do I have to loose?
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I'll be trying it very soon here.
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Damn, thanks for sharing this. Time to experiment. My car is currently VERY poorly painted a single-stage black. Thanks again.
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now only if i could choose between white or black.....
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wow this is crazy i wanna try this
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I hate these threads where I have to click around so much to find the details.
The Nico link'd thread links to a thread on moparts which reads, part:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1

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here's how i painted my car for about $50, it's actually very easy and the results are amazing. First off, get a can of tremclad real orange (or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4" professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint. also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad. i have done this to a few cars, and i can say it works amazing, u just have to be paitient. next u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about as thin as water, a little thicker. get out the roller and paint away, don't get the paint shaked when u buy it, enamel is stirred, otherwise you'll have bubbles in the paint for a week!!! after u do 2 coats, wet sand the whole car, then repeat, 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats wetsand. i painted the charger using a can since your not spraying the car u use all the paint and not spray 50% in the air, use progressivly finer sand paper each time. it's not really that much work, cause u can stop and start any time, u can do just a door, or the hood, ect. do one panel at a time, and don't stop once you start. once your done the final coat, wetsand with about 1000 grit to a totally smooth finish, and then using a high speed polisher i use a buffing bonnet and turtle wax polishing compound. do the whole car with this, and i'm telling u, depending on the amount of time and paitence you have, the results are amazing. laugh if you want, but for $50 ($30 for paint, about $20 for rollers, sand paper, ect...) it really looks good. also you can do these steps overnight, paint one evening and by morning u can wet sand. i have personally done alot of painting, mostly single stage acrylic enamel, and i've sprayed several cars in my garage with really good professional results, just it stinks, it's a real pain to do, easy to make a mistake, messy, and expensive. The tremclad is awesome paint, the "real orange" is an amazing hemi orange, and almost looks like it has some perl in the sun, awesome color right out of the can. I used this technique on my 1974 beetle also, here are the results:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Picture10.jpg
the car before:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/IM000475.jpg
another after pic:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00164.jpg
here is a car i sprayed (71 beetle, midnight blue metalic):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00194.jpg
here is the car before (71 beetle):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/Picture1.jpg

here's a few pics of the charger done:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02764.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02769.jpg

well that's my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long post. i was borred lol
i painted the orange beetle in 1999, and it still looks like the day i painted it, the 71 blue beetle i painted in 2000, and built the car for my dad, i used the same paint on my charger, maybe one day i'll spring for a good paint job, prepping is 90% of the work, stripping the car, sanding, ect.....painting is overrated!!!
So if you have TIME, then i'd say go for it, the worst that could happen is that it does'nt turn out and your out $50, but if your paitient, and expriement with lets say just the trunk pannel and if you like it do the whole car, if not just get it done by someone else for $4000. i don't know about you guys, but i would rather spend the $4000 on other parts like getting the mechanics sorted out and new chrome, cause when u have really nice paint and crappy bumpers, door handles it just sticks out more.
Sounds interesting, someone do it and post their results....
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Gonna try this on my roof first, wasen't sure if I want the top black or not, but since its already prepped for paint I might as well try it, I have $200 something in giftcards to home depo anyway.
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soo is it a actual gallon paint can that u get??
and my car has been painted b4 but the paint is coming off how do i go about getting it off also what grit should i use for rust??
i want to try this while my car is off the road this seems like a great idea....and i need a paint job bad the clear coat is almost gone on my hood and its starting to come off on the body....
how do i get it off??
Edit: what do i do about dings and dents??
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bleh...Im too lazy, I'd just pay someone $100 to try this method.
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it's tremclad in canada, rustoleum here.
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soo is it a actual gallon paint can that u get??
and my car has been painted b4 but the paint is coming off how do i go about getting it off also what grit should i use for rust??
i want to try this while my car is off the road this seems like a great idea....and i need a paint job bad the clear coat is almost gone on my hood and its starting to come off on the body....
how do i get it off??
Edit: what do i do about dings and dents??
obviously painting over rust and dings and dents isn't going to fix squat. you'll have to fix that shit the old fashioned way if you want it to go away. if you read the article it says you dont have to remove old paint. you just scuff it up with scoth brite or whatever.

your first sentence is a little convoluted, but i think you were asking if it's an actual gallon of paint that you can get. yes, you can get it at home depot or loews. etc. it's "rustoleum protective enamel" for outdoor metal surfaces.

http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp...8&SBL=1&dds=16
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im gonna do it when the weather here in the bay area gets a little better....
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Ya this has been circulating through all the car forums. Someone said that there's an article in like the August (I think..) issue of HotRod. I'm gonna do it before I paint my car, and if it looks good enough then I'll spend my paint money elsewhere...
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I've been following up on the thread since it started on moparts.org it seems pretty easy but you have to read some stuff on that thread to know some stuff that might happen. Im about to do it in about 2 weeks to my s14 i'll post pics up.
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Hope this is the right section for this, and I hope its not a repost but just saw this on FA and sounds like a good idea. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1
I went through the thread on club4ag.com... http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133867 ... and it seems like it might be worth a try....what do you experienced body work ppl think? Is it worth it?
edit...it gives details on how to do a $50 paint job

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I've heard about this a few places. If it's done right (takes alot of patience and prep from what I hear) it can produce amazing results, especially considering the price. I might give this a try sometime.....
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Yea, I'm going to try my roof first, then maybe the whole thing. Good find.
My paint is shot anyway!!
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