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Old 05-03-2006, 10:08 PM   #1
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OK, so before I break down and buy overfenders...(fender pullers look here!)

I really would like to hear your opinions on if a really GOOD pull in combination with a little more camber would work.

In this test fit, i just wanted to get an idea on how much i would needed to pull in order to make them work. The following picture shows the suspension not fully settled from jacking it up, so camber is not so negative.



Please stick to the topic

i can already see the flames goin

any tips or suggestions would be appreciated!
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Old 05-03-2006, 10:22 PM   #2
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pull/lift to the max around 25mm (paint will crack alittle). some smaller tires. and about -3.2 camber. it should fit. seen it done before.
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What size rims are those? I personally have the 17X10 +12 in the rear with a fender pull. Not sure exactly how many mm its pulled but I'm sure it is close to if not more than 25mm and am positive I can pull it further without the annoying dent at the top of the fender. It's only running about -1.5 camber and the fender has been pulled as far down as I'd like. Anyways here is a pic just for an idea and yes I used a heat gun and the paint still cracked.
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the rear rims are 18x10.5 -26mm on 265/35 tires, yeah i know the tires are huge

I was somewhat encouraged to do a pull when I saw NI_YON_Zenki's car

he's running a 18x10 -20mm, so i figured we're pretty damn close in wheel specs, but he's also running a 235/40 tire

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Do NOT pull your fenders like that. At least, not to the point where it looks like gravel.

IMO your car is too clean to be pulling and possibly damaging your quater panel; to get those wheels w/ that tire combo to fit.
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big pulls like that are hard to make look nice. when we rolled and pulled my s13 the spot welds on the rear fenders started to make wrinkles
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well since you are considering some sort of wide fender...might as well try pulling it first, if it doesn't work out, go wide fender.
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well since you are considering some sort of wide fender...might as well try pulling it first, if it doesn't work out, go wide fender.
Agreed. As long as your DEAD SET on getting these wheels to fit. Know what I mean? There is no turning back once you've pulled your fenders/screwed them up/gone wide body or whatever.

But even if it doesn't work...you have 2 more S14's to try again on
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why do you people think its cool to buy insanely low offset wheels and NOT know what you're doing? pulling your fenders will look about as bad as that jdm aero you overpaid for. widebody/real aero/lose the goddamn oem spoiler please. that car has a lot of work ahead of it :\
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why do you people think its cool to buy insanely low offset wheels and NOT know what you're doing? pulling your fenders will look about as bad as that jdm aero you overpaid for. widebody/real aero/lose the goddamn oem spoiler please. that car has a lot of work ahead of it :\

I would listen to J5 he does have a good point and also has one of the coolest S14's around.

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why do you people think its cool to buy insanely low offset wheels and NOT know what you're doing? pulling your fenders will look about as bad as that jdm aero you overpaid for. widebody/real aero/lose the goddamn oem spoiler please. that car has a lot of work ahead of it :\
that was a little bit of pussyhurt dont you think? I mean c'mon, not everyone wants their car to look like a rabid snowplow with a kit that EVERYONE on earth has. calm down, take 2 of these and call me in the morning
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go wide fenders. or if you want that pulled look, get fender flares and mold them in. imo pulled that much does not look good.
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Old 05-03-2006, 11:38 PM   #13
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Jeeeeezzzussss, a 235 on a 10 is a sad sad day for that much rim...

Don't pull that much mang, ditch the rims for better offsets/sizes.

And +1 for losing the OEM spoiler.
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Siz - honestly I think the wheels are a bit too extreme for your zenki. Its too clean for such a major offset. If you are gonna stick with them, go with overfenders.
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sorry broham, i don't use aero everyone on earth has nor do i like it. version select s14 kits can take the dirtnap for all i care. but you're trying to mix two themes with this car....

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they'll never go well together, the cars gonna end up looking...not so fresh.
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sorry broham, i don't use aero everyone on earth has nor do i like it. version select s14 kits can take the dirtnap for all i care. but you're trying to mix two themes with this car....

-hardcore
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they'll never go well together, the cars gonna end up looking...not so fresh.
thats the point I was trying to make in my first reply. Kind of like a roid monster with big nuts......aint gonna happen
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I personally think you could pull it enough to make them fit, but you'll definitely need some bondo work to smooth it out when it's done. That car is gorgeous, and I'm assuming you don't wanna have to do any paint work on it. If you don't mind that, I think you could pull it, but you'd definitely need like a 245 tire on it, and at least 3.5 degrees of camber, if not more. I honestly don't think the fronts are aggressive enough though, in comparison. Should have gone with something like 9/10 0 offset. Like was posted above though, if you're DEFINITELY gonna make them work, you can always try pulling the fuck out of it and seeing if you can get em under there. If not, you'll need overfenders anyway, and you'll have to cut the quarters up when you put them on, so what the hell.
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read up before all this madness

go wide fenders
unless you get a body shop to pull yours it will look like ni_yons..which look like complete shit in person. yeah ive seen it. pulled w/ a fork.
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aero is a must and widefenders or sell the wheels and get something less aggressive.
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Been there done that... hahaha



Looks funk? Yes!

People will snatch up the oem stuff in notime!! Just get wide fender, or sell the wheels.. it wont look right at all.
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stock front fenders

pull for function.. what works what works.. aint gotta be perfect, this aint no "full aero superdrop track only " car, this is a street whip.. where pot holes, drive ways, and bird shit exsist everyday.
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How much do they stick out in that pic?
I feel your pain. I have some wheels that stuck out 40mm when I bought them. After 20mm pull, camber, stretching, fitment is better but still a little poke. I'm happy.

On my SC,
2 deg neg camber = 5mm that the top of the wheel moves inward

As was said, get an overfender because huge pulls look really bad. They are pretty cheap too unlike the ones for my car.
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Pull it, use a torch to heat the fender; no paint chips will occur and it will be easier to pull and it will be smoother.
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yah but that's still hella too much to pull
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Ill be doing something similar, only not as crazy. 15 X 8 0offset, im going to pulling on my s13. Its about a 15 or so mm. pull if im not mistaken. I say try for the pull. go slow, use a heat gun. If it dont work you can do one of 2 things:

1. cut off shitty pull job, add fenderflares
2. wide fenders.

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Ill be doing something similar, only not as crazy. 15 X 8 0offset, im going to pulling on my s13. Its about a 15 or so mm. pull if im not mistaken. I say try for the pull. go slow, use a heat gun. If it dont work you can do one of 2 things:

1. cut off shitty pull job, add fenderflares
2. wide fenders.

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or the 3rd option

3. buy different wheels

15x8 with need-a-fender-pull offset is nuts! I mean- if your fenders are pulled for wheel fitment you pretty much need aero of some type to avoid that muscle car look- and aero with 15s???

And original red s14 poster- there is no way you will pull those fenders enough and any efforts will look like ass. Just too much. Overfenders are the ticket
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i would just do fender flares if i were you, like the ones on chmercer's car those are so hot.
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seen too many people buckle their fenders doing agressive pulls, i was pretty cautious when i rolled mine and opted for camber adjustment and raising the ride height a few mm rather than the gangsta roll

if you guys want fender flares i have several sets here and i'd love to get them on a bunch of cars. i was going to do it myself but wussed out. Sizzoo i sent you a pm already.

tons of dudes have got them from me but i dont have any decent pics mounted on cars for the site. they are identical to the flares JDM rice has on his S13... see clearcorners.com for the famous pics
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get overfenders and run a 295 or 305 tire in the rear so it doesn't look like a balloon.
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:46 PM   #30
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How hard would it be to just sell the rear ones and get a "not-so-huge" pair? If there is something available that is maybe one inch or so wider than those fronts.
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