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bstonedrift · 05-30-2006, 09:07 PM

I've done research, but I am trying to find out who makes the most complete polyurthane bushing kit for an S13.

RS*R?
Energy Suspension?
Whiteline?

Ghettokracker71 · 05-31-2006, 06:15 AM

Sorry to say I don't know alot about the S13 stuff,but I am using some energy suspension stuff on my Integra,and on the honda/acura boards,all the guys SWEAR by energy,but like I said,I don't really know about the s13 stuff.

(thread bump)

s14slide · 05-31-2006, 07:06 AM

It depends, Energy has a "master kit", but I believe SPL has the Nismo bushings which is just harder rubber. I would go with either one of these if you don't want to go heim joint. Courtesy also carries some, and I think they even have the steering rack polys. Not sure on s13, but I do know I got them for my s14 so I'd imagine that they have them.

Gearhead_42 · 05-31-2006, 07:43 AM

Energy kit includes all the pivot/flex stuff covered, RSR I think has some of the mounting (rack bushings?)

If you're upgrading to pillowball stuff, you might want to go in with a buddy as you'll not be using half of the set

Same goes for aftermarket sways, you probably will get new poly mountings with those...

That said, I have Energy in both my S chassis, along with various pillowball arms and/or Whiteline eccentrics... Get the Master Kit, great bang for the buck...

boroboros14 · 05-31-2006, 08:32 AM

I have a few Whiteline bushings here and there. When I installed them in My TC rods some of my steering wheel vibration went away at higher speeds. Polyurethane is polyurethane. I think that Energy has the most complete set, although if you don't have a rear sway bar you will have those bushings left over. I also believe that its cheaper to purchase the master set than to piece the kit together.

Gnnr · 05-31-2006, 09:02 AM

I belive that the red (or is it orange) ones from Energy suspension are stronger than the black ones. I'm not too sure though.

aznpoopy · 05-31-2006, 10:55 AM

i know for a fact the energy suspension tension rod bushings are different.

they are 3 piece with 2 rubber outers and 1 polyurethane core.

the old 1 piece polyurethane would crack tension rods and destroy front LCAs, so keep that in mind when you're looking at bushings from other brands.

bstonedrift · 05-31-2006, 02:13 PM

thanx guys! .

stinky_180 · 05-31-2006, 02:55 PM

energy suspension complete master bushing set paired with nismo subframe bushings. the energy suspension subframe inserts are not great from what i heard.

bstonedrift · 05-31-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinky_180

energy suspension complete master bushing set paired with nismo subframe bushings. the energy suspension subframe inserts are not great from what i heard.

Which subframe bushings do you recomend?

mjjstang · 05-31-2006, 08:39 PM

I just finished pressing my rear subframe joints in today, they are energy suspension. Worst shit I have EVER had to deal with. and Hope ot never deal with this shit again. still have to put it in so i dont know how it will feel but im sure it will be nice. I almost bought the RsR kit but decided just to just go ES rear kit.

R34SKYLINE · 06-06-2006, 10:30 PM

I just installed the complete ES Master Kit on my S13 coupe and its awesome, I got teh kit with the new 3 piece T/C rod bushings everything turned out good! I also used the sub-frame insert with my already CUSCO subframe collars just as extra reinforcement for the area that is blank in the stock sub-frame bushing all it did was just tighten the feel up even more, 3 thumbs up from me...well worth it.

gotta240 · 06-07-2006, 12:37 AM

I didn't think any poly subframe kits(ACTUAL BUSHINGS) were made for s14 or 13's... Am i wrong?

I know some used the 300zx subframe bushings, but they are taller...no?

oh yeah....to you guys who installed the tc rod bushings...You might want to do some research...i heard/read that those are big no no's.

R34SKYLINE · 06-07-2006, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotta240

I didn't think any poly subframe kits(ACTUAL BUSHINGS) were made for s14 or 13's... Am i wrong?

I know some used the 300zx subframe bushings, but they are taller...no?

oh yeah....to you guys who installed the tc rod bushings...You might want to do some research...i heard/read that those are big no no's.

They include sub-frame inserts to fill in the blank areas.....the 3 piece T/C rod bushing works just like the stock one it allows for torque twisting side to side but doesn't allow front and back movement maybe very very little atlease less movement than stock does..

05-30-2006, 09:07 PM	#1
bstonedrift Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Best Polyurathane Bushings? I've done research, but I am trying to find out who makes the most complete polyurthane bushing kit for an S13. RS*R? Energy Suspension? Whiteline?

05-31-2006, 07:06 AM	#3
s14slide Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nippon Age: 43 Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It depends, Energy has a "master kit", but I believe SPL has the Nismo bushings which is just harder rubber. I would go with either one of these if you don't want to go heim joint. Courtesy also carries some, and I think they even have the steering rack polys. Not sure on s13, but I do know I got them for my s14 so I'd imagine that they have them. __________________ = My day

05-31-2006, 09:02 AM	#6
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I belive that the red (or is it orange) ones from Energy suspension are stronger than the black ones. I'm not too sure though. __________________

05-31-2006, 02:55 PM	#9
stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 40 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	energy suspension complete master bushing set paired with nismo subframe bushings. the energy suspension subframe inserts are not great from what i heard. __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

05-31-2006, 08:39 PM	#11
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I just finished pressing my rear subframe joints in today, they are energy suspension. Worst shit I have EVER had to deal with. and Hope ot never deal with this shit again. still have to put it in so i dont know how it will feel but im sure it will be nice. I almost bought the RsR kit but decided just to just go ES rear kit. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

05-31-2006, 06:15 AM	#2
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry to say I don't know alot about the S13 stuff,but I am using some energy suspension stuff on my Integra,and on the honda/acura boards,all the guys SWEAR by energy,but like I said,I don't really know about the s13 stuff. (thread bump)

05-31-2006, 07:43 AM	#4
Gearhead_42 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Pennsylvania Age: 50 Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Energy kit includes all the pivot/flex stuff covered, RSR I think has some of the mounting (rack bushings?) If you're upgrading to pillowball stuff, you might want to go in with a buddy as you'll not be using half of the set Same goes for aftermarket sways, you probably will get new poly mountings with those... That said, I have Energy in both my S chassis, along with various pillowball arms and/or Whiteline eccentrics... Get the Master Kit, great bang for the buck...

05-31-2006, 08:32 AM	#5
boroboros14 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a few Whiteline bushings here and there. When I installed them in My TC rods some of my steering wheel vibration went away at higher speeds. Polyurethane is polyurethane. I think that Energy has the most complete set, although if you don't have a rear sway bar you will have those bushings left over. I also believe that its cheaper to purchase the master set than to piece the kit together.

05-31-2006, 10:55 AM	#7
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i know for a fact the energy suspension tension rod bushings are different. they are 3 piece with 2 rubber outers and 1 polyurethane core. the old 1 piece polyurethane would crack tension rods and destroy front LCAs, so keep that in mind when you're looking at bushings from other brands.

05-31-2006, 02:13 PM	#8
bstonedrift Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanx guys! .

06-06-2006, 10:30 PM	#12
R34SKYLINE Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just installed the complete ES Master Kit on my S13 coupe and its awesome, I got teh kit with the new 3 piece T/C rod bushings everything turned out good! I also used the sub-frame insert with my already CUSCO subframe collars just as extra reinforcement for the area that is blank in the stock sub-frame bushing all it did was just tighten the feel up even more, 3 thumbs up from me...well worth it.

06-07-2006, 12:37 AM	#13
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	I didn't think any poly subframe kits(ACTUAL BUSHINGS) were made for s14 or 13's... Am i wrong? I know some used the 300zx subframe bushings, but they are taller...no? oh yeah....to you guys who installed the tc rod bushings...You might want to do some research...i heard/read that those are big no no's.