lowering.

[s13silady]

is a 2 1/4 inch drop too much for a 93 s13?

[tnord]

probably not.....the S13's seem to be even more jacked up than the S14's. you will most likely have to get camber plates and ?control arms" to correct the camber to within factory specs.

[gunmetals13]

depends how the streets are around you live and how much tire wear and camber correction you're willing to deal with.

[240 2NR]

Depends how you lower the car.  The problem is although there's an ass load of fender gap, there's a very short amount of front suspension travel.  That means that going 2.5" lower with springs and shocks will require some reasonably stiff (read: not sportlines) springs to compensate for the reduced travel, otherwise you'll be running on bumpstops.  Another good idea would be a short stroke shock/strut to match those springs.

The ideal way to get lots of drop on an S13 is with a good set of coilovers with adjustable height spring perches and strut bodies, and as a benefit those will probably have camber plates included.  But thise route is $$$.  Before you commit to going really low, please do yourself a favor and search.

[Yoshi]

okay, maybe my stock setup was different than others... when my suspension was stock on my 240, had I dropped it an 2.5 inches, I'd have like .5 inches of ground clearance, and would most definitely be scraping and sparking everywhere I went.  That's just dumb.  Unless your making a showcar that's WAY too low in my opinion... the car wouldn't be streetable... if all you car about is the look for having that "slammed" look, maybe hydraulics are for you... what a waste that would be tho.

[DSC]

I agree with yoshi.  2"+ is way too much.  You can easily drop 2" if your just looking at the wheel well but look at the ground clearance up front and you'll see you can't drop it that much w/out scraping on everything.  
I think s14's with the front lip have even less clearance up front <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[riot]

...I guess I'm in the same boat. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp; Not really sure what I want as far as ride height goes, but I deffinitely want to kill some of that darn wheel gap &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> &nbsp; I think Im going to be purchasing Tein HE coilovers so I'll have camber plates to adjust the negative camber. &nbsp;With that I'll at least have adjustability in case I'm not happy with my ride height, etc. &nbsp;

I just don't want to be stuck in the situation I had with my Si...once the springs were on, that was IT...no adjustments.

-ryan

[KAMRAN]

what drop do u guys recomend for an S14? i was thinking 1.7" and 1.4" with eibach sportlines... what do u guys think?

[240 2NR]

Please read what was just writen above ^

[HippoSleek]

I don't own an s13, but I know from my s14 that, ground clearance aside, there is only about 2.5" of suspension travel in the whole system unless you have short stroke dampers! &nbsp;You lower the car 2.5" are you will have less than .5" of travel - even if you cut the bumpstops down. &nbsp;You will be, de facto, riding on your bumpstops.

I know that the HE's and some Zeal's lower the car w/o reducing travel. &nbsp;I think if you are looking to go that low, you better a) invest in a product like this and b) get used to hearing things scrape and hit when you are driving anywhere. &nbsp;imo, that is too low for the streets.

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ June 14 2002,1:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Vehicular justice: the drifter getting T-boned by the streetracer</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Daaaamn Hippo, what's up with the drift hating? &nbsp;I think u wish me harm <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[s13silady]

thanks for all the info guys.. but its a 2 and a QUARTER inch drop im talking about not a 2.5 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> ...but im riding 215/55/15x6 in the rear.... and stock 195/60/15x6 in the front....i dont have a bump stop... the gap from my tires to the wheel well is about 5 to 6 fingers....you could fit a HI-C juice box up in that piece <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;theres springs are a smooth ride... but a little more stiff than the others... will i cause rub on any of the tires... im worried especially about the front because the springs in the front are bigger than the ones in the rear.....and i dont want the spring to be resting on my wheel...... sorry for all the questions guys... this is the first ive done suspension for a 240.... ive been doing all engine work.... but thatnks for all your help so far... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[adey]

sorry, double post

[adey]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> you can ge Hi-C in the US!? I've never seen it... and though it doesn't taste that great, it's always a pleasant reminder of home. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
that's a big fender gap .... did you mean the HI-C box in sideways, or upright? The only car you'd fit an up-right Hi-C box drink between the tire and fender is Meowth's silvia hi-rider. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Hi-C-ryder.

[drift freaq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> you can ge Hi-C in the US!?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

ya, thats like way old school, adey. You kinda have to be an old schooler to remember . We used to get it as kids in the powder packet form and mom would make it up in big batches we drank that stuff like water.

Anyways as far as suspension goes on the S13 ya its pretty whack . I am going to be putting in a set of Tein S tech medium springs here in the next week so I will report on it . Yes the HKS's are coming out. Ok as far as dropping the car goes the S tech is going to drop my car about 1/2 inch more than the HKS's this is still going to be under a 2 inch drop .
The other thing to do is get larger wheels I have found that is the easiest way to eliminate wheel gap . Meowth you listening?. Go get a set of 16 or 17 rims and watch some or all of the dreaded well gap disappear. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
Oh ya for all the drift haters don't hate on the real drifters hate on the wannabe's.
Ah but the wannabes could turn into good drifters themselves. Everybody has to start somewhere. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
maybe we should create a new term? drift ricers? or rice drifters? hahahahhahahaha <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> &nbsp;or rifters hahahaha

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (s13silady @ June 15 2002,03:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">....i dont have a bump stop...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WHAT? Why did you take them out? that's a very dangerous thing to do! &nbsp;ESPECIALLY with a lowered car. &nbsp;The bump stops are the last line of protection you have when your shocks bottom out. &nbsp;Should that happen, and at least hte bump stop is not there to cushion the impact, you could be looking at some serious damage to your car! &nbsp;They're there for a reason, I'd put them back, if for no other reason, to save your a potentially large monetary loss in broken parts.

[Balboa]

WHY does everyone seem to think that larger wheels reduce fender gap?! When you buy larger-than-stock wheels, you also buy a lower-series (thinner) tire in order to keep the SAME overall diameter as stock. If you change the diameter any, your speedometer, and possibly more gauges, will be way out of wack and will need to be calibrated.

[HKrpS13]

I don't think anyone was talking about larger wheels. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[DSC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HKrpS13 @ June 14 2002,9:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think anyone was talking about larger wheels. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually, drift freaq was.

I'll add that, NO larger rims do not reduce the distance between the outside of the tire to the fender...but they DO reduce the distance between the outside of the rim and the fender, and thats what you see most especially at night or from a distance.

Edit: BTW Balboa, from what i've heard about people changing the overall diamater it only messed their speedo by 5mph or less. &nbsp;So when they were travleing 60mph their speedo would read 55...not THAT big of a deal.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ June 14 2002,5:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ June 14 2002,1:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Vehicular justice: the drifter getting T-boned by the streetracer</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Daaaamn Hippo, what's up with the drift hating? I think u wish me harm <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Nope - you and a few others are on my, "I'd like to imagine that they know the difference b/n a powerslide and a drift, realize it is not the fastest way through a corner, and only do it in controlled conditions" list <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Otherwise re: big tires/wheels - by getting a big sidewall tire you will a) increase rollover and squirm which detracts from handling, b) throw off your speedo, and c) look like you didn't know that truck tires don't belong on cars. &nbsp;I'd rather have the gap!

Another vote for RETURN THE BUMPSTOPS &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

And there is no functional difference b/n 2.5 and 2.25 when it comes to lowering. &nbsp;Anything above 2" is a PITA or $$$$