Did Japanese S13s come with better seats? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

locski · 07-09-2002, 02:22 PM

if so, what is a good market price for them?

*sykikchimp* · 07-09-2002, 03:55 PM

I'm pretty sure the S13's had the same crappy seats.  I found a few pics of early 180sx's and they had the same craptastic seats we had..

240sxtreme · 07-09-2002, 05:05 PM

what makes our seats crappy...besides old age?  I mean, are we talking not enough padding?  not tight enough?

*sykikchimp* · 07-09-2002, 06:22 PM

not enough side bolstering, and odd seat back shape...  never been real fond of them..  especially since I sat in a GOOD set of seats.

D-STYLE180SX · 07-09-2002, 08:34 PM

I think the older 240s (89-90) had better seats than the newer models,more side support, and I think the backrest is a single piece compared to the newer ones w/the adjustable headrest!

*sykikchimp* · 07-09-2002, 09:24 PM

the ones in the 89-90 were the ssame seats used in the 91-93 base model cars..  the adjustable headrest thing was an option

Yoshi · 07-10-2002, 02:23 AM

I think u ppl are just too big <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Us tiny japanese people fit right into the s13 seats okay <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> hehee... although I did sit in a 90 s13 with the cloth seats, and for some reason it didn't feel as good as my leather ones... i'm wondering if material makes any difference, cuz I was sure that the dimensions and all were the same... maybe the stiffer leather adds something? I dunno <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

rancid240 · 07-10-2002, 04:15 AM

Anybody else get that lower back stiffness after sitting in them for about an hour?

uuninja · 07-10-2002, 05:35 AM

My right leg gets stiff after about an hour because of the damn cat hump <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Anyway anyone looking for a cheap seat upgrade might want to look at s14 seats.

nrcooled · 07-10-2002, 07:49 AM

There is no side support in the s13 seats.  I have to hang on to the wheel to keep my dumbass planted on hard corners.  I can't imagine what will happen when I get more suspension mods....geesh!  
Recaros and Bride racing buckets are just a tad bit out of my price range plus for that kind of money I could get a turbo upgrade <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

AKADriver · 07-10-2002, 07:55 AM

The '96.5-'98 180SX has some different seats that look like re-covered S14 seats.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  Also note the S14-like cloth on the door panels and glovebox and the airbag... neat

riot · 07-10-2002, 01:43 PM

Oh please...its obvious none of you have ever driven Hondas before. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> You want a flat seat?  Drive my old 2000 Civic Si...that fucking piece didn't have ANY side bolstering and also didnt have any support.  The s13 seats are a HUGE step up for me.  I love em.

-ryan

AKADriver · 07-10-2002, 02:29 PM

S13 seats are better than a Civic seat, as they should be, but still on the low end of the scale.  I preferred the seats in my Neon.. heck, I'd even take S12 seats over S13 seats.

A lot of what makes S13 seats bad is from wear...  my passenger seat is fairly comfortable, I plan on swapping the seatbacks side to side when I get some spare time.  But going back to my original comment, S12 seats may have been worse to begin with, but they stood the test of time much better.

*sykikchimp* · 07-10-2002, 02:50 PM

The Cat hump being right in the middle of the floor is stupid..  they designed the car to be better in RHD format.. and yoshi is probably right..  us americans are too damn big..  at 6'3" I can tell the car wasn't really built for me at all.

HippoSleek · 07-10-2002, 03:28 PM

I'd 100% agree on the 99-00 Si seats.  The only way I don't fit in a car w/ a greenhouse that size is if I'm sitting on a lawnchair (which is exactly how those seats felt).

I think the s13 is a TAD better than the s14 for fit, but the s14 seats are soooo much better.  Especially after you modify them by removing padding (which killed me a$$ on a drive to NY last week <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> ).  

Now, reason for reply  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  - Considering they don't even have the extra cat in Japan, that hump is just there out of spite!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>   (it hurts my ankles to drive more than 45 minutes in my car&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

escapist13 · 07-10-2002, 06:02 PM

But Ryan, your new Sol is a Hon-duh and you like those seats, right?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

07-09-2002, 02:22 PM	#1
locski Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if so, what is a good market price for them? __________________ kg/mm springs bilstein sport struts cusco os front + rear strut bar cusco rear triangle bar cusco sway bars yep, she handles ok...

07-09-2002, 03:55 PM	#2
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm pretty sure the S13's had the same crappy seats.  I found a few pics of early 180sx's and they had the same craptastic seats we had.. __________________

07-09-2002, 06:22 PM	#4
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not enough side bolstering, and odd seat back shape...  never been real fond of them..  especially since I sat in a GOOD set of seats. __________________

07-09-2002, 08:34 PM	#5
D-STYLE180SX Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 98 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think the older 240s (89-90) had better seats than the newer models,more side support, and I think the backrest is a single piece compared to the newer ones w/the adjustable headrest! __________________

07-09-2002, 09:24 PM	#6
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the ones in the 89-90 were the ssame seats used in the 91-93 base model cars..  the adjustable headrest thing was an option __________________

07-09-2002, 05:05 PM	#3
240sxtreme Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portland, OR Age: 48 Posts: 386 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what makes our seats crappy...besides old age?  I mean, are we talking not enough padding?  not tight enough?

07-10-2002, 02:23 AM	#7
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I think u ppl are just too big <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Us tiny japanese people fit right into the s13 seats okay <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> hehee... although I did sit in a 90 s13 with the cloth seats, and for some reason it didn't feel as good as my leather ones... i'm wondering if material makes any difference, cuz I was sure that the dimensions and all were the same... maybe the stiffer leather adds something? I dunno <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

07-10-2002, 04:15 AM	#8
rancid240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Irvine CA Posts: 2,770 Trader Rating: (72) Feedback Score: 72 reviews	Anybody else get that lower back stiffness after sitting in them for about an hour?

07-10-2002, 05:35 AM	#9
uuninja Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reston, VA Age: 47 Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My right leg gets stiff after about an hour because of the damn cat hump <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyway anyone looking for a cheap seat upgrade might want to look at s14 seats. __________________ Lurker Supreme! www.midatlantic240sx.com 91 Coupe 97 KA24DE+T SOLD

07-10-2002, 07:49 AM	#10
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There is no side support in the s13 seats.  I have to hang on to the wheel to keep my dumbass planted on hard corners.  I can't imagine what will happen when I get more suspension mods....geesh!   Recaros and Bride racing buckets are just a tad bit out of my price range plus for that kind of money I could get a turbo upgrade <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

07-10-2002, 07:55 AM	#11
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,518 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The '96.5-'98 180SX has some different seats that look like re-covered S14 seats. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>  Also note the S14-like cloth on the door panels and glovebox and the airbag... neat

07-10-2002, 01:43 PM	#12
riot Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh please...its obvious none of you have ever driven Hondas before. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> You want a flat seat?  Drive my old 2000 Civic Si...that fucking piece didn't have ANY side bolstering and also didnt have any support.  The s13 seats are a HUGE step up for me.  I love em. -ryan

07-10-2002, 02:29 PM	#13
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,518 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	S13 seats are better than a Civic seat, as they should be, but still on the low end of the scale.  I preferred the seats in my Neon.. heck, I'd even take S12 seats over S13 seats. A lot of what makes S13 seats bad is from wear...  my passenger seat is fairly comfortable, I plan on swapping the seatbacks side to side when I get some spare time.  But going back to my original comment, S12 seats may have been worse to begin with, but they stood the test of time much better.

07-10-2002, 02:50 PM	#14
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Cat hump being right in the middle of the floor is stupid..  they designed the car to be better in RHD format.. and yoshi is probably right..  us americans are too damn big..  at 6'3" I can tell the car wasn't really built for me at all. __________________

07-10-2002, 03:28 PM	#15
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd 100% agree on the 99-00 Si seats.  The only way I don't fit in a car w/ a greenhouse that size is if I'm sitting on a lawnchair (which is exactly how those seats felt). I think the s13 is a TAD better than the s14 for fit, but the s14 seats are soooo much better.  Especially after you modify them by removing padding (which killed me a$$ on a drive to NY last week <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ).   Now, reason for reply  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  - Considering they don't even have the extra cat in Japan, that hump is just there out of spite!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>   (it hurts my ankles to drive more than 45 minutes in my car&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

07-10-2002, 06:02 PM	#16
escapist13 Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	But Ryan, your new Sol is a Hon-duh and you like those seats, right?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>