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XxDriverxX · 09-24-2006, 01:54 PM

My 240's frame has been getting rustier and rustier over the years, under the driver's side. I checked it, there is now a HUGE hold, I'd say about 5-10 inches in the frame itsel under my seat. The other side is clean and solid.

Am I driving myself into the grave if I continue to drive this? could it just "let out" on me all of the sudden or is it no as simple as that? (ie, other parts of the car other than that frame holding the car together)

Thanks

touge-isogu · 09-24-2006, 02:24 PM

um... i think you are fine unless you got multiple cancer woonds(sp?)

drift freaq · 09-24-2006, 02:28 PM

Well for one, we talk about frame rails on our cars but the reality of it those frame rails are actual integral parts of the unibody. Technically our cars do not have frames in the standard sense. The unibody is the frame i.e. much like a exoskeleton. Given that the amount of rust and size of the area your talking about would effect structural integrity. If it was mine I would toss it and find another chassis.

gotta240 · 09-24-2006, 02:30 PM

DRIFTFREAQ speaks words of truth and wisdom!!!

Our cars DONT HAVE FRAMES. Although i kinda doubt your car will just "give out", your car is now more prone to twisting and is most likely less structurally(sp) sound in case of impact.

big_schaf · 09-24-2006, 02:42 PM

same thing happened to my friend...cut that cancer out and weld in a new patch and rock guard it!! then its as good as new

XxDriverxX · 09-24-2006, 03:08 PM

howmuch would a job like that cost?

**ThatGuy** · 09-24-2006, 04:15 PM

It's not the "Dragula",

but I'd suggest talking to some local shops about getting it repaired. It's tough to say how much it would cost since we don't live in your area. Talk to a shop, they can give you a good estimate.

zaneithan · 09-24-2006, 10:03 PM

it cost me 125$ to have both of my frame rails cut out and new pieces welded in on my s13, its worth it for the peace of mind

P4rD0nM3 · 09-25-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Well for one, we talk about frame rails on our cars but the reality of it those frame rails are actual integral parts of the unibody. Technically our cars do not have frames in the standard sense. The unibody is the frame i.e. much like a exoskeleton. Given that the amount of rust and size of the area your talking about would effect structural integrity. If it was mine I would toss it and find another chassis.

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420sx · 09-25-2006, 08:54 AM

werd. its a nice word.... nice....long.... and wordy.

speedstar01 · 09-25-2006, 09:28 AM

shouldnt be more than a couple hundred bucks to have someone (a shop or a friend) weld some fresh metal in there. its def worth it since 240s are probably rather scarce in your area as well as in mine (upstate NY)

for some of us buying a clean shell (in our own state) is poopy doo doo

shinrekka · 09-25-2006, 02:41 PM

i paid 300$. I bought the car with a 1" spot of rust in the frame. I sold it, bought it back a year and a half later. I was picking at the rust and literally 2 feet of frame disintergrated in my hands. I took it to a guy my uncle deals to and he cut it clean and welded in a plate for 300$. I was taking off ramps at 90mph. Didnt do any damage and i dont know if you can feel the car twist but i sure as hell didnt.

09-24-2006, 01:54 PM	#1
XxDriverxX Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada. Age: 42 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Am I driving a Coffin? My 240's frame has been getting rustier and rustier over the years, under the driver's side. I checked it, there is now a HUGE hold, I'd say about 5-10 inches in the frame itsel under my seat. The other side is clean and solid. Am I driving myself into the grave if I continue to drive this? could it just "let out" on me all of the sudden or is it no as simple as that? (ie, other parts of the car other than that frame holding the car together) Thanks

09-24-2006, 02:28 PM	#3
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Well for one, we talk about frame rails on our cars but the reality of it those frame rails are actual integral parts of the unibody. Technically our cars do not have frames in the standard sense. The unibody is the frame i.e. much like a exoskeleton. Given that the amount of rust and size of the area your talking about would effect structural integrity. If it was mine I would toss it and find another chassis. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

09-24-2006, 02:30 PM	#4
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	DRIFTFREAQ speaks words of truth and wisdom!!! Our cars DONT HAVE FRAMES. Although i kinda doubt your car will just "give out", your car is now more prone to twisting and is most likely less structurally(sp) sound in case of impact. Last edited by gotta240; 09-24-2006 at 11:40 PM..

09-24-2006, 02:42 PM	#5
big_schaf Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: British Columbia Age: 37 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	same thing happened to my friend...cut that cancer out and weld in a new patch and rock guard it!! then its as good as new __________________ 90 s13 dd, 90 s13 track, 90 ae92 winter

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ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not the "Dragula", but I'd suggest talking to some local shops about getting it repaired. It's tough to say how much it would cost since we don't live in your area. Talk to a shop, they can give you a good estimate. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

09-24-2006, 02:24 PM	#2
touge-isogu BANNED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	um... i think you are fine unless you got multiple cancer woonds(sp?)

09-24-2006, 03:08 PM	#6
XxDriverxX Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada. Age: 42 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	howmuch would a job like that cost?

09-24-2006, 10:03 PM	#8
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 40 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	it cost me 125$ to have both of my frame rails cut out and new pieces welded in on my s13, its worth it for the peace of mind __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

09-25-2006, 08:54 AM	#10
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	werd. its a nice word.... nice....long.... and wordy. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

09-25-2006, 09:28 AM	#11
speedstar01 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NY! Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	shouldnt be more than a couple hundred bucks to have someone (a shop or a friend) weld some fresh metal in there. its def worth it since 240s are probably rather scarce in your area as well as in mine (upstate NY) for some of us buying a clean shell (in our own state) is poopy doo doo

09-25-2006, 02:41 PM	#12
shinrekka Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island Posts: 251 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i paid 300$. I bought the car with a 1" spot of rust in the frame. I sold it, bought it back a year and a half later. I was picking at the rust and literally 2 feet of frame disintergrated in my hands. I took it to a guy my uncle deals to and he cut it clean and welded in a plate for 300$. I was taking off ramps at 90mph. Didnt do any damage and i dont know if you can feel the car twist but i sure as hell didnt.