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jz1219 · 08-28-2006, 09:20 PM

anyone selling short shifter ?? whats good short shifter i want the really short ones

DJPimpFlex · 08-28-2006, 09:38 PM

B&M...done..

punxva · 08-28-2006, 10:23 PM

that or C's but they are harder to find

shayrgob240 · 08-28-2006, 11:23 PM

B & M FTW even though it rattles a little bit.

jz1219 · 08-28-2006, 11:30 PM

oh thanks alot!

jz1219 · 08-28-2006, 11:36 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-M-S...spagenameZWDVW

jz1219 · 08-28-2006, 11:36 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-M-4...spagenameZWDVW

DJPimpFlex · 08-28-2006, 11:36 PM

Version 2 of teh B&M doesnt rattle nearly as much.

vutony · 08-28-2006, 11:55 PM

nismo or tomei (super rare)

ghambino · 08-28-2006, 11:57 PM

I have Tomei. I might sell it.

crazyikimasho · 08-29-2006, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punxva

that or C's but they are harder to find

http://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=3092 C's short shifters in stock!

Flybert · 08-29-2006, 12:41 AM

The b&m is just too stiff in my opinion. I sold mine shortly after I got mine. I'd rather use my sloppy stock shifter, especially for drifting.

DJPimpFlex · 08-29-2006, 02:14 AM

I really like mine. I have a V1 in my race car and I had a V2 in my daily for a while. The V1 is either looser or more worn in cause its a lot "sloppier." thats not to say that its not short or tight, but in comparison to the V2 its loose. I really like it, better than the V2. It is loud as crap, but its a race car so I dont give a crap.

punxva · 08-29-2006, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justified2.4

http://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=3092 C's short shifters in stock!

C's and My Nismo FTW!!!

S13Eye · 08-29-2006, 12:45 PM

B&M. Its super short, and super notchy. Its so short, that its like pushing a stiff button. Its like youre not even shifting a manual trans. I hate B&M shifters with a passion.

C's or Nismo shifters are great. Stay away from those eBay knock offs. I bought one - lo and behold, it doesn't work. How retarded do you have to be to fail at making an exact replica of something as basic as a shifter?! I know Chinese imitations are crap, but there needs to be a line drawn!

s13coupedrfter · 08-29-2006, 12:57 PM

The MKII off ebay is the shiznat. I've had different shortshifters on my s13 and this one feels the best. The MKII is a B&M knockoff, it looks almost identical but the backplate is black instead of blue. I got mine for 80 bucks shipped, they are very easy to find and always on ebay. I recommend these to everyone and for 80 bucks how can you go wrong?

DJPimpFlex · 08-29-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by S13eye

B&M. Its super short, and super notchy. Its so short, that its like pushing a stiff button. Its like youre not even shifting a manual trans. I hate B&M shifters with a passion.

This, as with almost everything interior wise is 100% opinion. A lot of people like the stiring butter feel of the stock shifter, while I myself like the super notchie and short feel of the B&M. Best bet is to find someone near you with one and see if you like it.

RightWheelDrive · 08-29-2006, 05:40 PM

I don't know where people get that the B&M is too short. Yes, it does feel too short compared to stock, but we all know what stock feels like...jello. Drive on the B&M long enough and it will feel long again. As for stiffness, when I first got mine, I thought it was too stiff as well but that was because it was new. Once it is broken in, it feels really good with just enough feedback when shifting. I like mine, but what I did not like was the price...

projectRDM · 08-29-2006, 07:24 PM

Nismo DOES NOT MAKE A SHORT THROW SHIFTER. Thank you, that's all.

hellion240sx · 08-30-2006, 09:19 AM

lol churning butter. AHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA thats great. yeah b&m havent tried another but it gets my vote. its like click, click.

S13Eye · 08-30-2006, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

Nismo DOES NOT MAKE A SHORT THROW SHIFTER. Thank you, that's all.

https://www.rhdjapan.com/shop/cart.p...t_detail&p=982 whats all this than? Please explain if i'm wrong.

**Phlip** · 08-30-2006, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13Eye

https://www.rhdjapan.com/shop/cart.p...t_detail&p=982 whats all this than? Please explain if i'm wrong.

That is what you call a savvy ebayer making their money on ignorant children, simple as that. Let's start with the seller's name, "rhdjapan," and now let's have a look into the main line of the auction:
"NISMO Solid Short Shifter 180SX Silvia S13 S14 S15 CA18
SR20DET CA18DET SR20DE 200SX 240SX Nissan Drift D1 GP"
(yes, that was a copy and paste)
he is looking to get the ca$hola off of one of these new drift kiddies looking to get nismo parts that do not exist. My understanding, if I remember it correctly, is that Nismo does NOT make the short shifter, C's did and it was rebadged.

S13Eye · 08-30-2006, 09:48 AM

So, is there an actual Nissan part number for a rebadged C's shifter, or is it a complete scam?

projectRDM · 08-30-2006, 10:00 AM

We've been over this before, but I'm bored.

Nissan Motorsports sells the C's shifter, so most Nissan dealers can order it through them. The C's is a true short throw unit, but it is not a Nissan item.

Nismo Japan also makes a replacement shifter, but it is NOT short throw, it's called a 'solid' shifter because it has a heavier lever and ball, making shift engagements more precise. It does not shorten throws. That comes straight from the Nismo Japan catalog.

The link you provided is for the Nismo unit, they're probably unaware that it's not a short throw because 99% of replacement shifters made for most cars are designed for shorter throws, very rarely are there just heavier units produced with stock throw. This is backed up by the fact that you yourself thought it was a short throw unit, as do most people who look into the Nismo piece.

g6civcx · 08-30-2006, 10:10 AM

I can vouch for the Nismo shifter. It's meant to improve shift feel, not reduce shift distance.

S13Koop · 08-30-2006, 10:15 AM

Tomei
I have one

***S14DB*** · 08-30-2006, 12:22 PM

I like the B&M v2. I'm just not a big fan of doing all the c-clip work. Also the B&M moves the pivot point. The others put more stress on the tranny.

R33GTS-T · 08-30-2006, 12:42 PM

i love the Tomei in my car....wouldn't run anything else

btw, RHDJapan is a reputable company, I got my ARC bov and hotpipe from them and received it in 3 days from Japan. excellent seller and plan to do business with them again

MacDrevi0us · 11-30-2006, 01:09 AM

sorry but that wasnt very clear. Does a nismo solid shifter have a shorter throw than stock? I've heard something like a 20% shorter throw than stock. Is this true?

OptionZero · 11-30-2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

We've been over this before, but I'm bored.

Nissan Motorsports sells the C's shifter, so most Nissan dealers can order it through them. The C's is a true short throw unit, but it is not a Nissan item.

Nismo Japan also makes a replacement shifter, but it is NOT short throw, it's called a 'solid' shifter because it has a heavier lever and ball, making shift engagements more precise. It does not shorten throws. That comes straight from the Nismo Japan catalog.

The link you provided is for the Nismo unit, they're probably unaware that it's not a short throw because 99% of replacement shifters made for most cars are designed for shorter throws, very rarely are there just heavier units produced with stock throw. This is backed up by the fact that you yourself thought it was a short throw unit, as do most people who look into the Nismo piece.

reading FTW

Nismo = no
C's/rebadged C's = yes

08-28-2006, 09:20 PM	#1
jz1219 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone knows whats good S13 Short Shifter? anyone selling short shifter ?? whats good short shifter i want the really short ones __________________ 1992 Red 240sx Coupe

08-28-2006, 09:38 PM	#2
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	B&M...done.. __________________

08-28-2006, 11:30 PM	#5
jz1219 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh thanks alot! __________________ 1992 Red 240sx Coupe

08-28-2006, 11:36 PM	#6
jz1219 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This one ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-M-S...spagenameZWDVW __________________ 1992 Red 240sx Coupe

08-28-2006, 11:36 PM	#7
jz1219 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This One http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-M-4...spagenameZWDVW __________________ 1992 Red 240sx Coupe

08-28-2006, 11:23 PM	#4
shayrgob240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: gurnee, IL Age: 40 Posts: 441 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	B & M FTW even though it rattles a little bit.

08-28-2006, 11:55 PM	#9
vutony Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: (714) OC area Posts: 5,273 Trader Rating: (145) Feedback Score: 145 reviews	nismo or tomei (super rare) __________________ i have engine hoist for rent i do SR wiring

08-28-2006, 11:57 PM	#10
ghambino Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 465 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I have Tomei. I might sell it.

08-29-2006, 12:41 AM	#12
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	The b&m is just too stiff in my opinion. I sold mine shortly after I got mine. I'd rather use my sloppy stock shifter, especially for drifting.

08-29-2006, 02:14 AM	#13
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	I really like mine. I have a V1 in my race car and I had a V2 in my daily for a while. The V1 is either looser or more worn in cause its a lot "sloppier." thats not to say that its not short or tight, but in comparison to the V2 its loose. I really like it, better than the V2. It is loud as crap, but its a race car so I dont give a crap. __________________

08-29-2006, 12:45 PM	#15
S13Eye Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 190 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	B&M. Its super short, and super notchy. Its so short, that its like pushing a stiff button. Its like youre not even shifting a manual trans. I hate B&M shifters with a passion. C's or Nismo shifters are great. Stay away from those eBay knock offs. I bought one - lo and behold, it doesn't work. How retarded do you have to be to fail at making an exact replica of something as basic as a shifter?! I know Chinese imitations are crap, but there needs to be a line drawn!

08-29-2006, 12:57 PM	#16
s13coupedrfter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 839 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	The MKII off ebay is the shiznat. I've had different shortshifters on my s13 and this one feels the best. The MKII is a B&M knockoff, it looks almost identical but the backplate is black instead of blue. I got mine for 80 bucks shipped, they are very easy to find and always on ebay. I recommend these to everyone and for 80 bucks how can you go wrong?

08-29-2006, 05:40 PM	#18
RightWheelDrive Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: cal-E-4-9-A Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't know where people get that the B&M is too short. Yes, it does feel too short compared to stock, but we all know what stock feels like...jello. Drive on the B&M long enough and it will feel long again. As for stiffness, when I first got mine, I thought it was too stiff as well but that was because it was new. Once it is broken in, it feels really good with just enough feedback when shifting. I like mine, but what I did not like was the price... __________________

08-29-2006, 07:24 PM	#19
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Nismo DOES NOT MAKE A SHORT THROW SHIFTER. Thank you, that's all.

08-30-2006, 09:19 AM	#20
hellion240sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 43 Posts: 1,514 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol churning butter. AHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA thats great. yeah b&m havent tried another but it gets my vote. its like click, click.

08-30-2006, 09:48 AM	#23
S13Eye Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 190 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So, is there an actual Nissan part number for a rebadged C's shifter, or is it a complete scam?

08-30-2006, 10:00 AM	#24
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	We've been over this before, but I'm bored. Nissan Motorsports sells the C's shifter, so most Nissan dealers can order it through them. The C's is a true short throw unit, but it is not a Nissan item. Nismo Japan also makes a replacement shifter, but it is NOT short throw, it's called a 'solid' shifter because it has a heavier lever and ball, making shift engagements more precise. It does not shorten throws. That comes straight from the Nismo Japan catalog. The link you provided is for the Nismo unit, they're probably unaware that it's not a short throw because 99% of replacement shifters made for most cars are designed for shorter throws, very rarely are there just heavier units produced with stock throw. This is backed up by the fact that you yourself thought it was a short throw unit, as do most people who look into the Nismo piece.

08-30-2006, 10:10 AM	#25
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I can vouch for the Nismo shifter. It's meant to improve shift feel, not reduce shift distance.

08-30-2006, 10:15 AM	#26
S13Koop Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tomei I have one __________________ JZX100

08-30-2006, 12:22 PM	#27
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I like the B&M v2. I'm just not a big fan of doing all the c-clip work. Also the B&M moves the pivot point. The others put more stress on the tranny. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

08-30-2006, 12:42 PM	#28
R33GTS-T Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Here and There Age: 42 Posts: 313 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i love the Tomei in my car....wouldn't run anything else btw, RHDJapan is a reputable company, I got my ARC bov and hotpipe from them and received it in 3 days from Japan. excellent seller and plan to do business with them again __________________ does your wife drive a wide-bodied sr-powered coupe???

11-30-2006, 01:09 AM	#29
MacDrevi0us Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Walnut Creek Age: 37 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry but that wasnt very clear. Does a nismo solid shifter have a shorter throw than stock? I've heard something like a 20% shorter throw than stock. Is this true?