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JDMClifford · 12-26-2006, 01:35 AM

So I've Ben looking for some aftermarket sway bars. I'm not to sure what to get. I'm not going to drift this car since its my DD. I'm looking for more for a setup witch will let me handle the mountain roads better. My price range in around $300 because i need to also buy a new steering rack this week. The reason I'm not sure what to buy is because i have Ben reading certain ones are for drifting.

This is what i have Ben looking at. Will it work for what I'm looking for?

Suspension Techniques Front and Rear Sway Bar Set Nissan 240sx 89-94. Front Bar Diameter 1 1/16 inch, rear bar diameter 13/16 inch.

http://storesense.megawebservers.com...and/Detail.bok
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and should i get aftermarket end links while I'm down there?

HyperTek · 12-26-2006, 01:40 AM

yes they should work since you said you dont want something too stiff

JDMClifford · 12-26-2006, 02:05 AM

alright cool thanks for the help

JDMClifford · 12-26-2006, 03:32 AM

i was also looking at the GODSPEED anti sway cars, they are alot cheeper.

FRONT- 30.05mm
REAR - 28.29mm
-Full Chromemoly Construction, Handling Master
-Bolt On, Stock Mounting
-No Adjustment Necessary
-Solid Bushings Included

what is the differance? just quality? and why would these be crap compared to the other ones?

TipStylez · 12-26-2006, 03:36 AM

^Didnt someone do a review on that here?

I also wanted to know about them.

JDMClifford · 12-26-2006, 03:54 AM

i couldnt find anything.

Anto · 12-26-2006, 04:08 AM

Nooooo

The Godspeed sways are chromoly tube & they are crush bent instead of mandrel bent.

I was seriously considering getting these bars, but I realized that the rear bar was WAY thick. The front/rear ratio gets all out of wack & would probably create massive oversteer.

I think i'm going to go with the ST ones. Best bang / Buck

JDMClifford · 12-26-2006, 04:24 AM

not mandrel bent? what crap!. well thx for the info, saved my ass.

Replicant_S14 · 12-26-2006, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMClifford

not mandrel bent? what crap!.

What difference does it make?

Irukandji · 12-26-2006, 09:32 AM

If you can find it, you can always get a hicas rear sway bar. It's much cheaper than most aftermarket sway bars and is close to the same diameter.

Wei240 · 12-26-2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

If you can find it, you can always get a hicas rear sway bar. It's much cheaper than most aftermarket sway bars and is close to the same diameter.

and be careful which hicas you get it from

usdm hicas = 21mm
jdm hicas (on some models, i think just the 89-90 models) = 17mm
stock ones = 15mm

i had all three

!Zar! · 12-26-2006, 12:54 PM

Blah blah blah. Whiteline. You can adjust them.

And there isn't a huge need to upgrade the end links. So you can save a little money.

And remember, most stuff marketed for, "drifting" and what not is just regular performance parts. Named to appeal to a certain crowd.

If you do go the cheaper way, as said by n1sm0r, get a hicas rear bar.

And while you're at it, get a hicas steering rack. Better steering ratio imo.

OptionZero · 12-26-2006, 12:55 PM

stock bars from an S14 SE with upgraded endlinks (ball joints) would probably make a big difference, Turdz was considering making his own and IIRC found that the price is favorable to purchasing new ones.

You can always ask SPL or any largus dealer if u wanna shell out some cash

Stock bushings will probably reduce the effectiveness of any bigger sway bar you get.

Just a thought, haven't done it myself.

Jung918 · 12-26-2006, 12:58 PM

There is also Tanabe and Largus anti-sway bars. The Tanabe ones should be around your price range.

*MELLO*SOS* · 12-26-2006, 01:25 PM

Whiteline makes nice sway bars, I am very satisfied with mine. I got mine from PDM iirc.

e1_griego · 12-26-2006, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant_S14

What difference does it make?

Yeah, can anyone answer why the godspeed bars wouldn't be fine?

I already have s/t bars on my s13, just curious.

Alex

chuy · 12-26-2006, 02:00 PM

I got Tanabes and love them spent a day looking for the endlinks though.

RPS13FREAK · 12-26-2006, 02:28 PM

I used to have Largus sway bars F & R. They are really thick, but super super super lightweight. If you set the front sway on the first hole understeer goes away. They made the car feel a lot more solid on the mountain roads & when my car would oversteer it felt very controllable. I can't really say anything about daily driving because my car was rough on the streets since I would keep my coilovers on medium to hard dampening.

mbmbmb23 · 12-26-2006, 04:28 PM

I heard the R32 rear sway bar is like 25mm or 27mm thick and bolts up...you might research that a bit and try hitting up a Skyline chat board's "for sale" section.

-m

Gilboyto · 12-26-2006, 04:36 PM

I think whitelines are good, but can also be expensive. I just put the Suspension Techniques on mine, got both for a steal. Summit had them for $240 for front and rear kit. I noticed a huge increase in the rear especially, and the front doesnt roll as much either.

Heres some pics of them installed incase you wanted to see...
Heres the rear with endlink...

Heres the front comparison:

And heres the front with the endlink:

SoSideways · 12-26-2006, 04:50 PM

That green is awesome. And the red bushings = good bushings

Kaizen. · 12-26-2006, 08:44 PM

I love my suspension techs!

Irukandji · 12-26-2006, 08:50 PM

Sweet xmas sway bars.

JDMClifford · 12-27-2006, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilboyto

I think whitelines are good, but can also be expensive. I just put the Suspension Techniques on mine, got both for a steal. Summit had them for $240 for front and rear kit. I noticed a huge increase in the rear especially, and the front doesnt roll as much either.

Heres some pics of them installed incase you wanted to see...
Heres the rear with endlink...

Heres the front comparison:

And heres the front with the endlink:

wow they dont look much biger than stock is it really worth the money?

jsut for a referance i have front/rear strut tower brace, rear under brace, front power/under/subframe or whatever brace, c pillar bar, Tokico blues and cut stock springs. would i notice biger swaybars? and its an s13 btw.

JDMClifford · 12-27-2006, 01:50 AM

ohh, also jsut wondering if the 300zx bars or s14 bars will fit?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

stock bars from an S14 SE with upgraded endlinks (ball joints) would probably make a big difference, Turdz was considering making his own and IIRC found that the price is favorable to purchasing new ones.

You can always ask SPL or any largus dealer if u wanna shell out some cash

Stock bushings will probably reduce the effectiveness of any bigger sway bar you get.

Just a thought, haven't done it myself.

sounds like s14 se bars fit, but what about aftermarket s14 bars on an s13 or aftermarket 300zx. and would i not want to go to stiff? would it cause me to just slide out?

!Zar! · 12-27-2006, 01:51 AM

^^^

You would notice that your car's suspension is crappier than it already is.

First purchase real suspension and get rid of those blow shock and ghetto modded springs.

Sway bars will make a HUGE diff in how your car handles.

And did you miss EVERYTHING said in this thread?

Edit: ghsajgnwq; ;kaqspghal

Damnit.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Sway bars aren't ment to stiffen your car.

They stop body roll. And they help maximize your contact patch.

Stop being so fucking ghetto
Do it rite or don't do it at all. Because all you are going to do is trash up your car worse than it is.

JDMClifford · 12-27-2006, 02:27 AM

I know the sway bars don't stiffen my car up, from the way i understand they try apply the highest percentage coupling between both sides, and to increase the spring rate on the side is compressed the most.

Stop being so fucking ghetto
Do it rite or don't do it at all. Because all you are going to do is trash up your car worse than it is.[/QUOTE]

oh and i am asking because i want to do it right and take the "fucking ghettoness" out of it. So im buying good quality sway bars, new shocks and lowering springs. Theres no way im going to put coilovers on my dd. A to expensive and B not worth the money its not a race car, its a sports car.

Also my car is not trashed. thanks for the help on telling that i would feel a huge difference of the aftermarket sway bars. I appreciate it.

TougeNinja · 12-27-2006, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPS13FREAK

I used to have Largus sway bars F & R. They are really thick, but super super super lightweight. If you set the front sway on the first hole understeer goes away. They made the car feel a lot more solid on the mountain roads & when my car would oversteer it felt very controllable. I can't really say anything about daily driving because my car was rough on the streets since I would keep my coilovers on medium to hard dampening.

what do you mean by "the first hole"? the one farthest out from the actual bar? or the one buting right up to actual bar.... thx in advance!

TipStylez · 12-27-2006, 05:04 AM

Quick thread jack.

What would be the best setup for a full grip setup?

nevaland9 · 12-27-2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TipStylez

Quick thread jack.

What would be the best setup for a full grip setup?

also interested

12-26-2006, 01:35 AM	#1
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DD/mountian driving sway bars So I've Ben looking for some aftermarket sway bars. I'm not to sure what to get. I'm not going to drift this car since its my DD. I'm looking for more for a setup witch will let me handle the mountain roads better. My price range in around $300 because i need to also buy a new steering rack this week. The reason I'm not sure what to buy is because i have Ben reading certain ones are for drifting. This is what i have Ben looking at. Will it work for what I'm looking for? Suspension Techniques Front and Rear Sway Bar Set Nissan 240sx 89-94. Front Bar Diameter 1 1/16 inch, rear bar diameter 13/16 inch. http://storesense.megawebservers.com...and/Detail.bok __________________________________________________ _________ and should i get aftermarket end links while I'm down there? __________________ Parking lot pimping

12-26-2006, 01:40 AM	#2
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yes they should work since you said you dont want something too stiff __________________ Keep it Classy

12-26-2006, 02:05 AM	#3
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	alright cool thanks for the help __________________ Parking lot pimping

12-26-2006, 03:32 AM	#4
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was also looking at the GODSPEED anti sway cars, they are alot cheeper. FRONT- 30.05mm REAR - 28.29mm -Full Chromemoly Construction, Handling Master -Bolt On, Stock Mounting -No Adjustment Necessary -Solid Bushings Included what is the differance? just quality? and why would these be crap compared to the other ones? __________________ Parking lot pimping

12-26-2006, 03:54 AM	#6
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i couldnt find anything. __________________ Parking lot pimping

12-26-2006, 03:36 AM	#5
TipStylez Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 918 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Didnt someone do a review on that here? I also wanted to know about them.

12-26-2006, 04:08 AM	#7
Anto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 862 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Nooooo The Godspeed sways are chromoly tube & they are crush bent instead of mandrel bent. I was seriously considering getting these bars, but I realized that the rear bar was WAY thick. The front/rear ratio gets all out of wack & would probably create massive oversteer. I think i'm going to go with the ST ones. Best bang / Buck

12-26-2006, 04:24 AM	#8
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not mandrel bent? what crap!. well thx for the info, saved my ass. __________________ Parking lot pimping Last edited by JDMClifford; 12-26-2006 at 06:05 AM..

12-26-2006, 09:32 AM	#10
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you can find it, you can always get a hicas rear sway bar. It's much cheaper than most aftermarket sway bars and is close to the same diameter.

12-26-2006, 12:54 PM	#12
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Blah blah blah. Whiteline. You can adjust them. And there isn't a huge need to upgrade the end links. So you can save a little money. And remember, most stuff marketed for, "drifting" and what not is just regular performance parts. Named to appeal to a certain crowd. If you do go the cheaper way, as said by n1sm0r, get a hicas rear bar. And while you're at it, get a hicas steering rack. Better steering ratio imo. __________________

12-26-2006, 12:55 PM	#13
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	stock bars from an S14 SE with upgraded endlinks (ball joints) would probably make a big difference, Turdz was considering making his own and IIRC found that the price is favorable to purchasing new ones. You can always ask SPL or any largus dealer if u wanna shell out some cash Stock bushings will probably reduce the effectiveness of any bigger sway bar you get. Just a thought, haven't done it myself.

12-26-2006, 12:58 PM	#14
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	There is also Tanabe and Largus anti-sway bars. The Tanabe ones should be around your price range. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

12-26-2006, 01:25 PM	#15
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 43 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Whiteline makes nice sway bars, I am very satisfied with mine. I got mine from PDM iirc.

12-26-2006, 02:00 PM	#17
chuy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado some where Age: 48 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I got Tanabes and love them spent a day looking for the endlinks though. __________________ Slide Happy

12-26-2006, 02:28 PM	#18
RPS13FREAK Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 497 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I used to have Largus sway bars F & R. They are really thick, but super super super lightweight. If you set the front sway on the first hole understeer goes away. They made the car feel a lot more solid on the mountain roads & when my car would oversteer it felt very controllable. I can't really say anything about daily driving because my car was rough on the streets since I would keep my coilovers on medium to hard dampening. __________________ SHIFT_zilvia

12-26-2006, 04:28 PM	#19
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I heard the R32 rear sway bar is like 25mm or 27mm thick and bolts up...you might research that a bit and try hitting up a Skyline chat board's "for sale" section. -m __________________ 400x200

12-26-2006, 04:36 PM	#20
Gilboyto Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 190 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think whitelines are good, but can also be expensive. I just put the Suspension Techniques on mine, got both for a steal. Summit had them for $240 for front and rear kit. I noticed a huge increase in the rear especially, and the front doesnt roll as much either. Heres some pics of them installed incase you wanted to see... Heres the rear with endlink... Heres the front comparison: And heres the front with the endlink:

12-26-2006, 04:50 PM	#21
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	That green is awesome. And the red bushings = good bushings __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

12-26-2006, 08:44 PM	#22
Kaizen. Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,278 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I love my suspension techs! __________________

12-26-2006, 08:50 PM	#23
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sweet xmas sway bars.

12-27-2006, 01:51 AM	#26
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	^^^ You would notice that your car's suspension is crappier than it already is. First purchase real suspension and get rid of those blow shock and ghetto modded springs. Sway bars will make a HUGE diff in how your car handles. And did you miss EVERYTHING said in this thread? Edit: ghsajgnwq; ;kaqspghal Damnit. I said it before and I'll say it again. Sway bars aren't ment to stiffen your car. They stop body roll. And they help maximize your contact patch. Stop being so fucking ghetto Do it rite or don't do it at all. Because all you are going to do is trash up your car worse than it is. __________________

12-27-2006, 02:27 AM	#27
JDMClifford Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know the sway bars don't stiffen my car up, from the way i understand they try apply the highest percentage coupling between both sides, and to increase the spring rate on the side is compressed the most. Stop being so fucking ghetto Do it rite or don't do it at all. Because all you are going to do is trash up your car worse than it is.[/QUOTE] oh and i am asking because i want to do it right and take the "fucking ghettoness" out of it. So im buying good quality sway bars, new shocks and lowering springs. Theres no way im going to put coilovers on my dd. A to expensive and B not worth the money its not a race car, its a sports car. Also my car is not trashed. thanks for the help on telling that i would feel a huge difference of the aftermarket sway bars. I appreciate it. __________________ Parking lot pimping

12-27-2006, 05:04 AM	#29
TipStylez Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 918 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Quick thread jack. What would be the best setup for a full grip setup?