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CA18_S13 · 12-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Well for sure i know its not the starter. Earlier this morning i was gonna take it to the shop to get the alternator checked out when on the way there i was in third coasting at around 45 and the rpms drop to zero so i get into a left turn lane to clutch in and start it again. It cranks and cranks and it feels like the battery is loosing power. Well lucky for me my dad is in the back of me in his car he jumps out and helps me push it into this side street by a church and community. I didn't let off the clutch when i was at 45 and i didn't stall out. I hope it isn't a really bad electrical issue.

Sileighty_85 · 12-09-2006, 10:43 PM

Well first check for fuel make sure your fuel pump/injectors working(pull out the plugs and turn it over to check if fuels making it in the cylinders or take a screwdriver put the tip of it on the injector and put ur ear on the top and have some one turn it over and listen for a ticking sound)
Then check the plugs pullem out with em still in the plug wires crank it over and check for spark (dont forget to ground it).
if ya wanna check ur alt easy way is to have a voltmeter put it on the battery (if you can get it started) and check if you got around 14volts or while its runnin disconnect the battery if it dies u got a bad alt.

CA18_S13 · 12-11-2006, 08:27 AM

I know the alternator is bad cause i disconnect both leads from the battery when started and it died. Later on we checked my dad's acura and saw if that was the right test for the alternator and when we disconnected both his acura was still running.

DrewS13Coupe · 12-11-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CA18_S13

I know the alternator is bad cause i disconnect both leads from the battery when started and it died. Later on we checked my dad's acura and saw if that was the right test for the alternator and when we disconnected both his acura was still running.

This is by far one of the worst things you can do to your alternator. If anything you managed to pop a diode in your dad's acura. If you're really worried about the alternator not working take it to autozone and have them test it for you.

breakindrifts · 12-11-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewS13Coupe

This is by far one of the worst things you can do to your alternator. If anything you managed to pop a diode in your dad's acura. If you're really worried about the alternator not working take it to autozone and have them test it for you.

I've taken out my battery while engine was running like 50 times on my S13 and probably a few times on every other old car I have owned. Their alternators are still fine.

If you are are scared of "popping diodes" just put a multimeter on the positive lead from the altenator and see if the voltage goes up as you revv. No need to rely on the jackasses at autozone.

CA18_S13 · 12-18-2006, 11:23 AM

Good News and Bad News fixed the alternator. Car still stalls and i know for sure i am not dropping the clutch. Well i guess i am chaning fuel pump and strainer and probably the filter.

Prime · 12-18-2006, 11:43 PM

Might want to check out your engine temp sensor. My car was doing the same thing earlier this week. Turns out I knocked the bugger loose while I was changing oil.

Car DUMPS fuel into the chambers without that sensor, floods it out pretty quick, causes surging, stalling, and backfiring. Not to mention it won't want to start. Amazed me at how that one little plug could kill so much stuff.

idlafie · 12-21-2006, 02:05 AM

Unless you know for sure that you're fuel pump is bad, then try the following first before you replace your fuel pump.

-Check your vacuum lines
-Change your fuel filter
-check your fuel pressure regulator
-check your ECU & fuel pump relays
-check your air filter
-check your spark plugs, spark plug wires, along with your distributor cap & rotor
-check your timing & idle, (you'll need a Factory service manual for this).

If your stalling problem is not due to a vacuum leak, then chances are it could be due to an engine in need of a tune up. While you're doing the tune up, check your Engine Coolant Temperature sensor & wires along with cleaning out your throttle body with Carb cleaner / Throttle body cleaner. Checking & cleaning those items usually help with idle & engine performance.

Anyhow, hope this helps.

ID

CA18_S13 · 12-21-2006, 10:45 PM

-Check your vacuum lines- Done
-Change your fuel filter- Done
-check your air filter- Will Clean the Cone air filter
-check your spark plugs changing when its warm not driving it alot right now
, spark plug wires change those soon
distributor cap & rotor changed already

'90RPS13 · 12-21-2006, 10:52 PM

Correct firing order? *a

CA18_S13 · 12-23-2006, 12:24 AM

Like the plug wires in the right spot i am pretty sure. But will check when i do the plug wire and plug change.

'90RPS13 · 12-24-2006, 11:43 AM

Looking from the driver's side fender. It shoud be the following:

starting at 6 o'clock and going clockwise:

1-3-4-2.

*a

CA18_S13 · 12-24-2006, 06:57 PM

Going to look at the firing order on Christmas morning. Could this be an IACV problem.

CA18_S13 · 12-30-2006, 07:18 PM

Firing order is good. Any one think it could be the distributor its self.

yusuke1923 · 12-31-2006, 01:09 AM

Check yea MAF...

'90RPS13 · 01-03-2007, 06:43 PM

Pull the cap off and check fo build up. *a

s13_coupekilla · 01-03-2007, 06:44 PM

He replaced the Rotor Cap already right.

'90RPS13 · 01-03-2007, 06:45 PM

How many names you have? *a

CA18_S13 · 01-03-2007, 07:09 PM

I already changed the rotor cap. So is ther gunk near the rotor or something but i already change the cap..

I have 2 names cause i thought i forgot the password for my other name and i also changed inter service so i thought i couldn't get into my old email but i did. So i have 2 names sorry.

12-09-2006, 07:34 PM	#1
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car stalls and not from dropping clutch. Well for sure i know its not the starter. Earlier this morning i was gonna take it to the shop to get the alternator checked out when on the way there i was in third coasting at around 45 and the rpms drop to zero so i get into a left turn lane to clutch in and start it again. It cranks and cranks and it feels like the battery is loosing power. Well lucky for me my dad is in the back of me in his car he jumps out and helps me push it into this side street by a church and community. I didn't let off the clutch when i was at 45 and i didn't stall out. I hope it isn't a really bad electrical issue.

12-21-2006, 02:05 AM	#8
idlafie Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ..So Cal.... Posts: 940 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Unless you know for sure that you're fuel pump is bad, then try the following first before you replace your fuel pump. -Check your vacuum lines -Change your fuel filter -check your fuel pressure regulator -check your ECU & fuel pump relays -check your air filter -check your spark plugs, spark plug wires, along with your distributor cap & rotor -check your timing & idle, (you'll need a Factory service manual for this). If your stalling problem is not due to a vacuum leak, then chances are it could be due to an engine in need of a tune up. While you're doing the tune up, check your Engine Coolant Temperature sensor & wires along with cleaning out your throttle body with Carb cleaner / Throttle body cleaner. Checking & cleaning those items usually help with idle & engine performance. Anyhow, hope this helps. ID __________________ Weekend Mechanic for my Not-So-Mechanically-Inclined buddies....

12-09-2006, 10:43 PM	#2
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Well first check for fuel make sure your fuel pump/injectors working(pull out the plugs and turn it over to check if fuels making it in the cylinders or take a screwdriver put the tip of it on the injector and put ur ear on the top and have some one turn it over and listen for a ticking sound) Then check the plugs pullem out with em still in the plug wires crank it over and check for spark (dont forget to ground it). if ya wanna check ur alt easy way is to have a voltmeter put it on the battery (if you can get it started) and check if you got around 14volts or while its runnin disconnect the battery if it dies u got a bad alt.

12-11-2006, 08:27 AM	#3
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know the alternator is bad cause i disconnect both leads from the battery when started and it died. Later on we checked my dad's acura and saw if that was the right test for the alternator and when we disconnected both his acura was still running.

12-18-2006, 11:23 AM	#6
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good News and Bad News fixed the alternator. Car still stalls and i know for sure i am not dropping the clutch. Well i guess i am chaning fuel pump and strainer and probably the filter.

12-18-2006, 11:43 PM	#7
Prime Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: California Age: 40 Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Might want to check out your engine temp sensor. My car was doing the same thing earlier this week. Turns out I knocked the bugger loose while I was changing oil. Car DUMPS fuel into the chambers without that sensor, floods it out pretty quick, causes surging, stalling, and backfiring. Not to mention it won't want to start. Amazed me at how that one little plug could kill so much stuff.

12-21-2006, 10:45 PM	#9
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	-Check your vacuum lines- Done -Change your fuel filter- Done -check your air filter- Will Clean the Cone air filter -check your spark plugs changing when its warm not driving it alot right now , spark plug wires change those soon distributor cap & rotor changed already

12-21-2006, 10:52 PM	#10
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Correct firing order? *a

12-23-2006, 12:24 AM	#11
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Like the plug wires in the right spot i am pretty sure. But will check when i do the plug wire and plug change.

12-24-2006, 11:43 AM	#12
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looking from the driver's side fender. It shoud be the following: starting at 6 o'clock and going clockwise: 1-3-4-2. *a

12-24-2006, 06:57 PM	#13
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Going to look at the firing order on Christmas morning. Could this be an IACV problem.

12-30-2006, 07:18 PM	#14
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Firing order is good. Any one think it could be the distributor its self.

12-31-2006, 01:09 AM	#15
yusuke1923 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 818 to da 626 v(^_^)v Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Check yea MAF...

01-03-2007, 06:43 PM	#16
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pull the cap off and check fo build up. *a

01-03-2007, 06:44 PM	#17
s13_coupekilla Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He replaced the Rotor Cap already right.

01-03-2007, 06:45 PM	#18
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How many names you have? *a

01-03-2007, 07:09 PM	#19
CA18_S13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 40 Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I already changed the rotor cap. So is ther gunk near the rotor or something but i already change the cap.. I have 2 names cause i thought i forgot the password for my other name and i also changed inter service so i thought i couldn't get into my old email but i did. So i have 2 names sorry.