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youngmanvr4 · 03-04-2007, 08:32 PM

I'm ordering a sr tomorrow and I just found out the extra wiring needed for a s13 sr into a s14. So getting a s14 sr will make the wiring easier but is the s14 sr really worth the extra $500 besides the easier wiring?
I guess the main thing I'm asking is should I pour a little more money into getting a s14 sr or just stick with the s13 sr and save a little more money and not cut it so tight?

beehderty · 03-04-2007, 08:35 PM

get a normal blacktop.. vtc is not that great...

wootwoot · 03-04-2007, 08:43 PM

or you could read the bajillion threads on this and form your own oppinon?

sbanzer123 · 03-04-2007, 08:57 PM

i got the s14 sr and i like it. comes with a t28 another little added bennefit besides the vtc.

picho · 03-04-2007, 09:02 PM

Let me tell you how an s14 sr puts down more torque than a regular redtop or a black top s13, plus it feels lighter of the line s14 sr20 was made for an s14, s13sr20 was made for s13 you do the math

wootwoot · 03-04-2007, 09:17 PM

whats the equation?.....

picho · 03-04-2007, 09:22 PM

you need to read up^ the equation is there. nissan did it like that for a reason NISMO KNIGHTS fo life

youngmanvr4 · 03-04-2007, 10:00 PM

I know the benefits, I was just asking if it was worth $500.
The things I know of from s13 to s14 sr are
S13 S14
205 - 220hp
T25 - T28
High port intake design - Low port intake design
No VTC - VTC

sunnys14 · 03-04-2007, 10:05 PM

upgrading a s13 blacktop with a s14 t28 is about $400 already, not to mention $$$ needed for the extra wiring. VTC on the s14s make more low end torque than a s13.

MavericStephenc · 03-04-2007, 10:11 PM

also has bigger injectors (i think) go with the notch top. i have one and i wouldnt change it for the world

Dousan_PG · 03-04-2007, 10:32 PM

s14 hands down
turbo
power
low end power VTC business.
wiring. psst. that shit easy
do some reearch and do it yourself. its not rocket science.

usdm180sx · 03-04-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beehderty

get a normal blacktop.. vtc is not that great...

I disagree. It depends on the goals of the car and the power goals for the motor.

Regarding the motor, if you're looking for good response the s14sr is a better choice. If you don't care about response so much go with the s13 sr and the money you save can go towards a bigger turbo. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Take if for what it's worth.

Brian · 03-04-2007, 10:35 PM

I have the choice.
I am getting S14 motor.
unless... a cheap S15 comes around.

CKAMC · 03-04-2007, 10:43 PM

VCT (or VTC) allows power to be shifted depending how you want it thanks to a tune...

the motor is newer....

andif it didnt work then why would they repeat the same thing into the s15's?

wiring all it equals is extra time if your willing to do it on your own. larger injectors are a 15 deal onlu along with the BB except on SOME late model 14's

spend more time searching on such a broad subject peace!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

I have the choice.
I am getting S14 motor.
unless... a cheap S15 comes around.

$3800 for a front clip is the lowest I have seen

Dousan_PG · 03-04-2007, 10:44 PM

power smower
i hav ea s14 sr20det and im doing 350 right now
400 when i change ot my 3071R
it does fine.
and i still have VTC (toda cams)

*jspecusa* · 03-04-2007, 11:13 PM

simply put:
4g63 comes in different age over 10 year period,
I'm sure you know with each year there are new improvement not shown outside of the motor.
it's the same with all motor including sr20.
are the improvement and age of the motor worth the $500?
cheers,

sam

usdm180sx · 03-04-2007, 11:19 PM

In that case just go with an r34 gt-r rb26 and call it a day

youngmanvr4 · 03-04-2007, 11:50 PM

I can do the wiring no probably. I already know pretty well how to do it. Just simplicity makes things nicer most of the time. Its not that I cant do it or dont know how.
I think though I am going with a s14 sr just because I'll probably end up upgrading to a t28 if I would get a s13 sr later down the road so I might as well get a s14 sr. I'll probably like it better in the long run and it will make the wiring a bit easier.

ronmcdon · 03-05-2007, 01:23 AM

I agree with the consensus here. I have a '96 s14 notchtop in my '96 240sx. The subtle differences alone make the s14 notchtop swap more than worthwhile the $500 premium (which is an almost neglible factor considering how much more in extra parts you have to throw in). Basically my car had zero compatibility issues. I could even got to hook up a/c with ease.

If I could, i would have even gone with a s15 swap and thrown in a 5-spd tranny. the helical lsd alone (cost arounds $700 or so) would have made it worthwhile. Then again, the wiring and compatibility issues would have prob made it a considerably bigger headache.

sblack13 · 03-05-2007, 01:27 AM

do it, s14 sr is baller.

youngmanvr4 · 03-05-2007, 11:29 AM

I just ordered my s14 sr

ronmcdon · 03-05-2007, 11:40 AM

excellent choice, cheers!

The Riot Hero · 03-05-2007, 01:42 PM

eh, BS aside. to answer your question... YES it is worth it

hella_flushed · 03-05-2007, 01:51 PM

thumbs up!! def. worth it...

picho · 03-05-2007, 10:20 PM

worth it again

drift freaq · 03-05-2007, 11:41 PM

Well worth it, if your not going to step up to a 6 cylinder.

In fact, if I was going to build a SR car now, it would be a S14 or S15 SR for sure.

youngmanvr4 · 03-06-2007, 01:29 AM

I've thought about a RB25, but I decided to go sr. I dont know much about the rb series other than the basics and I dont know much about the install but it wouldn't be that hard because its been asked a million times. I decided to go s mainly for availability of parts. Not saying you cant get parts for the rb but their is more parts locally for a sr than a rb so if something breaks I'll be more likely to have a part close by.

03-04-2007, 08:32 PM	#1
youngmanvr4 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Haddam, Ks Age: 35 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 SR worth it? I'm ordering a sr tomorrow and I just found out the extra wiring needed for a s13 sr into a s14. So getting a s14 sr will make the wiring easier but is the s14 sr really worth the extra $500 besides the easier wiring? I guess the main thing I'm asking is should I pour a little more money into getting a s14 sr or just stick with the s13 sr and save a little more money and not cut it so tight?

03-04-2007, 08:43 PM	#3
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03-04-2007, 09:17 PM	#6
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03-04-2007, 10:32 PM	#11
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	s14 hands down turbo power low end power VTC business. wiring. psst. that shit easy do some reearch and do it yourself. its not rocket science. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

03-04-2007, 10:35 PM	#13
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	I have the choice. I am getting S14 motor. unless... a cheap S15 comes around. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

03-04-2007, 08:35 PM	#2
beehderty Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Port Orchard Age: 38 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get a normal blacktop.. vtc is not that great...

03-04-2007, 08:57 PM	#4
sbanzer123 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Age: 36 Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i got the s14 sr and i like it. comes with a t28 another little added bennefit besides the vtc.

03-04-2007, 09:02 PM	#5
picho Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Let me tell you how an s14 sr puts down more torque than a regular redtop or a black top s13, plus it feels lighter of the line s14 sr20 was made for an s14, s13sr20 was made for s13 you do the math

03-04-2007, 09:22 PM	#7
picho Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you need to read up^ the equation is there. nissan did it like that for a reason NISMO KNIGHTS fo life

03-04-2007, 10:00 PM	#8
youngmanvr4 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Haddam, Ks Age: 35 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know the benefits, I was just asking if it was worth $500. The things I know of from s13 to s14 sr are S13 S14 205 - 220hp T25 - T28 High port intake design - Low port intake design No VTC - VTC

03-04-2007, 10:05 PM	#9
sunnys14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: a land far far away... Posts: 1,549 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	upgrading a s13 blacktop with a s14 t28 is about $400 already, not to mention $$$ needed for the extra wiring. VTC on the s14s make more low end torque than a s13.

03-04-2007, 10:11 PM	#10
MavericStephenc Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: salem mass. Age: 37 Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	also has bigger injectors (i think) go with the notch top. i have one and i wouldnt change it for the world

03-04-2007, 10:44 PM	#15
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	power smower i hav ea s14 sr20det and im doing 350 right now 400 when i change ot my 3071R it does fine. and i still have VTC (toda cams) __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

03-04-2007, 11:13 PM	#16
jspecusa Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	simply put: 4g63 comes in different age over 10 year period, I'm sure you know with each year there are new improvement not shown outside of the motor. it's the same with all motor including sr20. are the improvement and age of the motor worth the $500? cheers, sam __________________ Nissan Japan: "road to happiness has many curves" Jdmlivin: "Jdm is dead, the yen is crazy"

03-04-2007, 11:19 PM	#17
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	In that case just go with an r34 gt-r rb26 and call it a day __________________ -Norm!

03-04-2007, 11:50 PM	#18
youngmanvr4 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Haddam, Ks Age: 35 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can do the wiring no probably. I already know pretty well how to do it. Just simplicity makes things nicer most of the time. Its not that I cant do it or dont know how. I think though I am going with a s14 sr just because I'll probably end up upgrading to a t28 if I would get a s13 sr later down the road so I might as well get a s14 sr. I'll probably like it better in the long run and it will make the wiring a bit easier.

03-05-2007, 01:23 AM	#19
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 90 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I agree with the consensus here. I have a '96 s14 notchtop in my '96 240sx. The subtle differences alone make the s14 notchtop swap more than worthwhile the $500 premium (which is an almost neglible factor considering how much more in extra parts you have to throw in). Basically my car had zero compatibility issues. I could even got to hook up a/c with ease. If I could, i would have even gone with a s15 swap and thrown in a 5-spd tranny. the helical lsd alone (cost arounds $700 or so) would have made it worthwhile. Then again, the wiring and compatibility issues would have prob made it a considerably bigger headache.

03-05-2007, 01:27 AM	#20
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	do it, s14 sr is baller.

03-05-2007, 11:29 AM	#21
youngmanvr4 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Haddam, Ks Age: 35 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just ordered my s14 sr

03-05-2007, 11:40 AM	#22
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 90 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	excellent choice, cheers!

03-05-2007, 01:42 PM	#23
The Riot Hero Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: shelby twp. MI Age: 41 Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	eh, BS aside. to answer your question... YES it is worth it

03-05-2007, 01:51 PM	#24
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03-05-2007, 10:20 PM	#25
picho Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	worth it again

03-05-2007, 11:41 PM	#26
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03-06-2007, 01:29 AM	#27
youngmanvr4 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Haddam, Ks Age: 35 Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've thought about a RB25, but I decided to go sr. I dont know much about the rb series other than the basics and I dont know much about the install but it wouldn't be that hard because its been asked a million times. I decided to go s mainly for availability of parts. Not saying you cant get parts for the rb but their is more parts locally for a sr than a rb so if something breaks I'll be more likely to have a part close by.