S14 Sr20Det Vs. S2000 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Andy93 · 08-01-2002, 05:34 PM

When I get my 95 240SX all built up with the red top SR20 FMIC,Downpipe,Clutch,BOV,EGT,Fuel Pump,Boost Controller and Apex-i N1 Catback and short shifter, will I be able to take my brothers S2000 on the strip and anywhere else?  I have driven his car many times and it is PSYCHO!  New to the Sr20Det though (never driven or rode in one.) Help me out, I need bragging rights again.

sr20mofo · 08-01-2002, 06:15 PM

hmm thats a tough one... on stock boost u will definitely loose even if his s2000 is bone stock u still will loose... sad to say but its the truth

DrDubbleB · 08-01-2002, 06:21 PM

That's not exactly "all built up" but it's all good.  It should be able to take the car in a straight line (lighter and about the same amount of power), but in the turns he probably has you.  S2000s handle pretty damned good and unless you have suspension mods, you probably won't be able to take him there.

Andy93 · 08-01-2002, 06:32 PM

Sorry for the broad term, "built-up" I know I am far away, but for me this swap is getting built up, from bone stock to turbo.  What other bolt-ons can I add at the time of engine install that will help me move down the strip (any part recommendations?) Thanks again, Andrew

justin89240sx · 08-01-2002, 06:37 PM

silviasichigo · 08-01-2002, 06:42 PM

Actually I have raced Three since they came out and at the time all I had was a full Exhaust and Blitz air intake. I had no problem with them at all. We raced several times at Mizugama and to no avail they just quit. One of the guys was an American the other two were Japanese. They are not all they are hyped up to be. When you drive a Real Silvia I don't mean a 240sx with a swap There is a difference in the way it feels besides the obvious left hand right hand thing. I have built up my brothers 240 in the states (Well I just sent him the engines and parts) and it is a little heavy feeling even with full JIC suspension (It's a 95 by the way). I am waiting to install the Mark II's intercooler and fuel pump to see what she has got she can almost keep up with the Silvia with just Full exhaust.

DrDubbleB · 08-01-2002, 06:55 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Andy93 @ July 31 2002,8:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sorry for the broad term, "built-up" I know I am far away, but for me this swap is getting built up, from bone stock to turbo. What other bolt-ons can I add at the time of engine install that will help me move down the strip (any part recommendations?) Thanks again, Andrew</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No, it's cool.  It's just a personal feeling that going from one stock engine to another isn't being built up, but I can totally see where you're coming from.  It's a big difference in power so compared to a stock KA I guess you could say that it's built up.  Out of curiosity though, why are you adding a new fuel pump before upgrading the turbo?

KiDyNomiTe · 08-01-2002, 06:57 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silviasichigo @ Aug. 01 2002,7:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually I have raced Three since they came out and at the time all I had was a full Exhaust and Blitz air intake. I had no problem with them at all. We raced several times at Mizugama and to no avail they just quit. One of the guys was an American the other two were Japanese. They are not all they are hyped up to be. When you drive a Real Silvia I don't mean a 240sx with a swap There is a difference in the way it feels besides the obvious left hand right hand thing. I have built up my brothers 240 in the states (Well I just sent him the engines and parts) and it is a little heavy feeling even with full JIC suspension (It's a 95 by the way). I am waiting to install the Mark II's intercooler and fuel pump to see what she has got she can almost keep up with the Silvia with just Full exhaust.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You are one lucky guy, i wish I had any of your cars, too bad your like halfway accross the world. Get better pics of your cars, your webshot thing seems to not be working right now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Andy93 · 08-01-2002, 07:14 PM

The only reason I am upgrading the fuel pump is for peace of mind.  I figure a new (better) fuel pump has to be better than the stock one an I will eventually upgrade the turbo.  Any more power adders available that I have not mentioned.  I am driving to ALT, GA to get this done and don't want to miss anything while the car is torn apart and I am 3 states away.

DrDubbleB · 08-01-2002, 08:24 PM

You can upgrade cams and the flywheel.

camppain · 08-01-2002, 09:18 PM

why not do research instead of asking people hey what can i upgrade and whats better a s2k or a s14 sr20det?

you obviously know the s2000 since your brother has one. and youve obviously started tin the right directiuon in getting info on the 240 and the sr. so why stop there and be spoon fed?

check here check fa and nico's im pretty sure you would find the info alot better then just asking random people.

not raggin on you just telling you to do some research instead of throwing parts in.

SR20DETlover · 08-01-2002, 11:41 PM

who win this a RX-7 or a 240SX? ponder that one!

xhdriver · 08-02-2002, 12:32 AM

i just came back from the track yesterday, i ran a 13.71 @ 103.5mph on the stock shitty tires in 90+ degree heat, i have no more parts than what you mention. im pretty sure stock s2000's run a 13.9 stock.
EDIT: at 13psi*

Tuck&Poke · 08-02-2002, 02:10 PM

well this race is going to depend alot on the skill of the driver in the s2000.  theyre extremely tricky cars to launch well because of the narrow power band and the fact that you have to rev it to 6K to get any kind of power.  there can be an s2000 going 0-60 in 5.8 sec one day and the next the same on is doing it in 6.5  very tricky and touchy cars.  its hard to say who would win.  just try it thats the best way to find out, you got a damn good chance

SR20Fastback · 08-02-2002, 02:56 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Aug. 02 2002,1:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well this race is going to depend alot on the skill of the driver in the s2000. theyre extremely tricky cars to launch well because of the narrow power band and the fact that you have to rev it to 6K to get any kind of power. there can be an s2000 going 0-60 in 5.8 sec one day and the next the same on is doing it in 6.5 very tricky and touchy cars. its hard to say who would win. just try it thats the best way to find out, you got a damn good chance</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
minime is definately right. Just try it. You listed a pretty descent set up, that would definately be able to keep up with the S2K.

Andy93 · 08-02-2002, 05:10 PM

I would think that a S2000 would still have more hp than my 240 will even after the swap.  240hp to 205 + mods???  And to the person who told me to research it myself, no offense taken, I like to get diffrent opinions on things.....then research them.  I used this scenario with my '94 Z28 and it ended up with 575hp N/A and still had a 200 shot of NOS to use if I ever came acrossed a car I needed it for (only used 4X in 3 months)  What can I run a safe level of boost at on the stock T-25, I know stock is 10psi.  What device can automatically control that when I am driving (if I need it.)  Anyways, thanks for the replies guys.

DrDubbleB · 08-02-2002, 05:40 PM

FYI stock is 7psi. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>  I think the stock turbo is safe to 12psi...but it could be more.

freakishhair · 08-03-2002, 01:25 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Andy93 @ Aug. 01 2002,8:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only reason I am upgrading the fuel pump is for peace of mind. I figure a new (better) fuel pump has to be better than the stock one an I will eventually upgrade the turbo. Any more power adders available that I have not mentioned. I am driving to ALT, GA to get this done and don't want to miss anything while the car is torn apart and I am 3 states away.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where are you getting it done in Atlanta, GA?
thats where I am located.

SR20Fastback · 08-03-2002, 01:31 AM

yes stock boost is 7lbs. I think with proper cooling/fuel you could maybe do 14 lbs? Its just an estimate though.

xhdriver · 08-03-2002, 05:24 AM

ive been running 13 pounds with 15 pound spikes for a while and ive yet to see problems. and its FAST! definatly faster than i thought it was gonna be

Andy93 · 08-03-2002, 11:37 AM

I am getting it done at Unstable-Hybrids in ATL.

sil80 · 08-03-2002, 12:01 PM

Hmm dont think I understand why you posted this question here when your having UH do your swap. They are probably the most notable SR swappers state side(currently). They should be able to answer any question you have even.

DrDubbleB · 08-03-2002, 12:08 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xhdriver @ Aug. 02 2002,07:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ive been running 13 pounds with 15 pound spikes for a while and ive yet to see problems. and its FAST! definatly faster than i thought it was gonna be</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No offense, but just because you are running it at that boost, does not mean that it's safe.

xhdriver · 08-03-2002, 07:59 PM

none taken, but i didnt say it was safe, i said it was fun <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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08-01-2002, 06:57 PM	#8
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silviasichigo @ Aug. 01 2002,7:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually I have raced Three since they came out and at the time all I had was a full Exhaust and Blitz air intake. I had no problem with them at all. We raced several times at Mizugama and to no avail they just quit. One of the guys was an American the other two were Japanese. They are not all they are hyped up to be. When you drive a Real Silvia I don't mean a 240sx with a swap There is a difference in the way it feels besides the obvious left hand right hand thing. I have built up my brothers 240 in the states (Well I just sent him the engines and parts) and it is a little heavy feeling even with full JIC suspension (It's a 95 by the way). I am waiting to install the Mark II's intercooler and fuel pump to see what she has got she can almost keep up with the Silvia with just Full exhaust.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You are one lucky guy, i wish I had any of your cars, too bad your like halfway accross the world. Get better pics of your cars, your webshot thing seems to not be working right now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

08-01-2002, 09:18 PM	#11
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not do research instead of asking people hey what can i upgrade and whats better a s2k or a s14 sr20det? you obviously know the s2000 since your brother has one. and youve obviously started tin the right directiuon in getting info on the 240 and the sr. so why stop there and be spoon fed? check here check fa and nico's im pretty sure you would find the info alot better then just asking random people. not raggin on you just telling you to do some research instead of throwing parts in. __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

08-02-2002, 12:32 AM	#13
xhdriver Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 6 Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just came back from the track yesterday, i ran a 13.71 @ 103.5mph on the stock shitty tires in 90+ degree heat, i have no more parts than what you mention. im pretty sure stock s2000's run a 13.9 stock. EDIT: at 13psi* __________________

08-02-2002, 02:56 PM	#15
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (minime686 @ Aug. 02 2002,1:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well this race is going to depend alot on the skill of the driver in the s2000. theyre extremely tricky cars to launch well because of the narrow power band and the fact that you have to rev it to 6K to get any kind of power. there can be an s2000 going 0-60 in 5.8 sec one day and the next the same on is doing it in 6.5 very tricky and touchy cars. its hard to say who would win. just try it thats the best way to find out, you got a damn good chance</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> minime is definately right. Just try it. You listed a pretty descent set up, that would definately be able to keep up with the S2K. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

08-03-2002, 01:31 AM	#19
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 40 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes stock boost is 7lbs. I think with proper cooling/fuel you could maybe do 14 lbs? Its just an estimate though. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

08-01-2002, 05:34 PM	#1
Andy93 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When I get my 95 240SX all built up with the red top SR20 FMIC,Downpipe,Clutch,BOV,EGT,Fuel Pump,Boost Controller and Apex-i N1 Catback and short shifter, will I be able to take my brothers S2000 on the strip and anywhere else?  I have driven his car many times and it is PSYCHO!  New to the Sr20Det though (never driven or rode in one.) Help me out, I need bragging rights again.

08-01-2002, 06:15 PM	#2
sr20mofo Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm thats a tough one... on stock boost u will definitely loose even if his s2000 is bone stock u still will loose... sad to say but its the truth

08-01-2002, 06:21 PM	#3
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's not exactly "all built up" but it's all good.  It should be able to take the car in a straight line (lighter and about the same amount of power), but in the turns he probably has you.  S2000s handle pretty damned good and unless you have suspension mods, you probably won't be able to take him there.

08-01-2002, 06:32 PM	#4
Andy93 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry for the broad term, "built-up" I know I am far away, but for me this swap is getting built up, from bone stock to turbo.  What other bolt-ons can I add at the time of engine install that will help me move down the strip (any part recommendations?) Thanks again, Andrew

08-01-2002, 06:37 PM	#5
justin89240sx Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

08-01-2002, 06:42 PM	#6
silviasichigo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Japan Age: 49 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: silviasichigo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually I have raced Three since they came out and at the time all I had was a full Exhaust and Blitz air intake. I had no problem with them at all. We raced several times at Mizugama and to no avail they just quit. One of the guys was an American the other two were Japanese. They are not all they are hyped up to be. When you drive a Real Silvia I don't mean a 240sx with a swap There is a difference in the way it feels besides the obvious left hand right hand thing. I have built up my brothers 240 in the states (Well I just sent him the engines and parts) and it is a little heavy feeling even with full JIC suspension (It's a 95 by the way). I am waiting to install the Mark II's intercooler and fuel pump to see what she has got she can almost keep up with the Silvia with just Full exhaust.

08-01-2002, 06:55 PM	#7
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Andy93 @ July 31 2002,8:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sorry for the broad term, "built-up" I know I am far away, but for me this swap is getting built up, from bone stock to turbo. What other bolt-ons can I add at the time of engine install that will help me move down the strip (any part recommendations?) Thanks again, Andrew</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> No, it's cool.  It's just a personal feeling that going from one stock engine to another isn't being built up, but I can totally see where you're coming from.  It's a big difference in power so compared to a stock KA I guess you could say that it's built up.  Out of curiosity though, why are you adding a new fuel pump before upgrading the turbo?

08-01-2002, 07:14 PM	#9
Andy93 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The only reason I am upgrading the fuel pump is for peace of mind.  I figure a new (better) fuel pump has to be better than the stock one an I will eventually upgrade the turbo.  Any more power adders available that I have not mentioned.  I am driving to ALT, GA to get this done and don't want to miss anything while the car is torn apart and I am 3 states away.

08-01-2002, 08:24 PM	#10
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can upgrade cams and the flywheel.

08-01-2002, 11:41 PM	#12
SR20DETlover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	who win this a RX-7 or a 240SX? ponder that one!

08-02-2002, 02:10 PM	#14
Tuck&Poke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MIA Age: 38 Posts: 1,046 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well this race is going to depend alot on the skill of the driver in the s2000.  theyre extremely tricky cars to launch well because of the narrow power band and the fact that you have to rev it to 6K to get any kind of power.  there can be an s2000 going 0-60 in 5.8 sec one day and the next the same on is doing it in 6.5  very tricky and touchy cars.  its hard to say who would win.  just try it thats the best way to find out, you got a damn good chance

08-02-2002, 05:10 PM	#16
Andy93 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would think that a S2000 would still have more hp than my 240 will even after the swap.  240hp to 205 + mods???  And to the person who told me to research it myself, no offense taken, I like to get diffrent opinions on things.....then research them.  I used this scenario with my '94 Z28 and it ended up with 575hp N/A and still had a 200 shot of NOS to use if I ever came acrossed a car I needed it for (only used 4X in 3 months)  What can I run a safe level of boost at on the stock T-25, I know stock is 10psi.  What device can automatically control that when I am driving (if I need it.)  Anyways, thanks for the replies guys.

08-02-2002, 05:40 PM	#17
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FYI stock is 7psi. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>  I think the stock turbo is safe to 12psi...but it could be more.

08-03-2002, 01:25 AM	#18
freakishhair Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Andy93 @ Aug. 01 2002,8:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only reason I am upgrading the fuel pump is for peace of mind. I figure a new (better) fuel pump has to be better than the stock one an I will eventually upgrade the turbo. Any more power adders available that I have not mentioned. I am driving to ALT, GA to get this done and don't want to miss anything while the car is torn apart and I am 3 states away.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> where are you getting it done in Atlanta, GA? thats where I am located.

08-03-2002, 05:24 AM	#20
xhdriver Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 6 Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive been running 13 pounds with 15 pound spikes for a while and ive yet to see problems. and its FAST! definatly faster than i thought it was gonna be __________________

08-03-2002, 11:37 AM	#21
Andy93 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am getting it done at Unstable-Hybrids in ATL.

08-03-2002, 12:01 PM	#22
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm dont think I understand why you posted this question here when your having UH do your swap. They are probably the most notable SR swappers state side(currently). They should be able to answer any question you have even. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-03-2002, 12:08 PM	#23
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xhdriver @ Aug. 02 2002,07:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ive been running 13 pounds with 15 pound spikes for a while and ive yet to see problems. and its FAST! definatly faster than i thought it was gonna be</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> No offense, but just because you are running it at that boost, does not mean that it's safe.

08-03-2002, 07:59 PM	#24
xhdriver Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 6 Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	none taken, but i didnt say it was safe, i said it was fun <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________