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Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 10:50 AM

Hey guys..

I've been doing some research on these and couldn't find too much information from experience (more drift wise)
Has anyone have real world experience with these set-up listed??

I'm looking to drift and I wanted to know if anyone with experience knows how capable these coilovers are...

R-tune 8k/7k
4-way front adjustable
8-way in the back

Cusco zero-2r or zero-2e
8k/6k
5-way adjustable (each click makes a lot of difference)

HKS hipermax D
8k/6k
30-way adjustable
dampening force-
(kgf) piston speed .1m/sec
F rebound-198 bump-73
R rebound-121 bump-22

!Zar! · 03-22-2007, 10:56 AM

They all are nice. Only one I haven't had any feedback on is the R-Tune ones.

They all do what you need. There isn't really a drift coilover. It just keeps bodyroll to a minimum and allows you to have better feedback/control.

I have some hypermax D's I'm waiting to toss on my car. Once I get off my ass...

OptionZero · 03-22-2007, 11:00 AM

If you've never drifted before, then there likely isn't anything different among those 3 choices that will make you better or worse.

I would go with something with fewer adjustment settings. Something about "30-way" seems pointless.

Ian · 03-22-2007, 11:02 AM

Tanabe Sevens are sweet

If you're just trying to drift though, get STANCE coilovers...cheaper, awesome quality, stateside support. What more could you want?

initial_drifter · 03-22-2007, 11:05 AM

^
cheaper price, but Stance coils will keep you satisfied for a long time

drew935 · 03-22-2007, 11:10 AM

My Cusco zero2 are fine. But I don't drift. Maybe a future track day at Laguna or something. I started out with 10/8kg Cusco springs then upgraded to 6/4kg Swift Springs. Yes, each click makes a big difference. Front is 2, rear on 1. I tired rear on 2 but it makes the car too twitchy over bumps especially on crappy Cali roads. Btw, I look at quality over price because of our crappy roads.

aznpoopy · 03-22-2007, 11:18 AM

nismo r-tunes are better than what you hear.

the ride is pretty goddamn smooth on jersey roads. not bouncy or harsh at all. one of the locals tracks and daily drives on them. look into them if you can find a good price.

ayuaddict · 03-22-2007, 03:05 PM

stance and KTS = best bang for the buck IMHO.

CKAMC · 03-22-2007, 04:58 PM

Sold a set of Nismo r-tuned for the s14 a while back to a cali customer. Guy was pleased as hell! he kept calling/email me back from then forth.

wonder how he is doing now... his name is Andy... thats all I can remember.

Clearalbino · 03-22-2007, 05:42 PM

I currently run the Cusco 2R and their fine for me when drifting. I have them set at 1 in the front and 2 in the rear. very nice coilovers.

keioffice · 03-22-2007, 05:56 PM

go with stance, great quality, most of the guys run them in the mid west

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 07:41 PM

Thanks for the help guys.
I'm not in the stateside so stance and kts is out of question.
Also, this is not my first time drifting and I'm looking to compete and win

Since Yen vs. Won(korean money) rate is where I like.. I can get these coils for around 1000-1200. (I also have hook-ups for shipping) So I guess it seems like I can't go wrong with any of them.. More input would be nice, thanks!

GSXRJJordan · 03-22-2007, 08:13 PM

+1 for Tanabe Sustec Pro "Sevens", especially for drifting where the higher spring rate will be appreciated. I love em for the "spirited driving" I do around town too, great ride, great adjustability (seven clicks total I believe). Got em set in the middle on the front and one click stiffer on the back.

CKAMC · 03-22-2007, 08:39 PM

only thing I have against tanabe is the fact they wont rebuild their coils... they want you to buy another set...what a rip.

go all out! get some DG5!!!

d*star180 · 03-22-2007, 08:40 PM

My stances keep me happy. Ive been waiting to hear some feedback on the new Stance 3-ways. Those should be real good and still a good bargain for hardcore track dampers.

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 08:43 PM

Hahaha...
I was looking at some DG5s but they come close to 1700 here.

For some reason, I can't find tanabe sevens in Japan or here.. I only see tanabe fives. I also might go for the cusco zero-2e with the e-con...(yes I'm that lazy

)

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 08:47 PM

Also, anyone heard of these???

OptionZero · 03-22-2007, 08:53 PM

re-badged megans?

AkinaSpeed · 03-22-2007, 09:09 PM

I drift on nismo's R-tuned, they are awesome for lack of a better word, they were worth every penny and also so nice on the street. I've my friends cars with different coilovers and all my friends agree that my coilover are really nice. Plus when you buy them new you get a booklet with all the part numbers for everything that you can order at your local dealer.

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

re-badged megans?

Hm... I don't think so.
Anyone know who Takana is?? (he has something to do with these coilovers but I can't quite make out what the translation page is saying..)
8/6 spring rates with 32-way adjustables...

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkinaSpeed

I drift on nismo's R-tuned, they are awesome for lack of a better word, they were worth every penny and also so nice on the street. I've my friends cars with different coilovers and all my friends agree that my coilover are really nice. Plus when you buy them new you get a booklet with all the part numbers for everything that you can order at your local dealer.

No problems as far as drifting?? No regrets on needing stiffer coilovers??

CKAMC · 03-22-2007, 10:12 PM

Dmax for hood and fenders... everything else is "meh"...

havent found a price but how about yashio coils? (nm 2200 yen mark)

I think tien super drift are in your budget...

other than that the cusco's your looking into are a pretty good choice.

Fk coils look intresting

AkinaSpeed · 03-22-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie84

No problems as far as drifting?? No regrets on needing stiffer coilovers??

Stiffer?? no need for stiffer, my car has little to no body roll. I drift and road race with them and on top of that daily drive them, no problems what so ever. Like I said before worth every penny

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

Dmax for hood and fenders... everything else is "meh"...

havent found a price but how about yashio coils? (nm 2200 yen mark)

I think tien super drift are in your budget...

other than that the cusco's your looking into are a pretty good choice.

Fk coils look intresting

Not really a fan of tein products..
I would rather go with HKS hipermax-d than tein super drifts

Racing gear products are also in my budget but they have a spring rate of 10/8 which I would hate on the streets of Korea.
To name some more... silkroads, hipermax-III, tanabe pro-seven,five, viral sports, buddy club, jic flt-tar, and gp g-masters to mind.

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkinaSpeed

Stiffer?? no need for stiffer, my car has little to no body roll. I drift and road race with them and on top of that daily drive them, no problems what so ever. Like I said before worth every penny

Hmmm.. I'm leaning towards the r-tunes from the reviews I hear. Thanks for the input.

Rookie84 · 03-22-2007, 10:55 PM

Also.. do you know if s15 r-tune coils (part #5300R-RSS51) is the same as S14 or how much difference it would make??..

CKAMC · 03-23-2007, 04:52 AM

15 to 14 need top hat's changed

chmercer · 03-23-2007, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie84

Hm... I don't think so.
Anyone know who Takana is?? (he has something to do with these coilovers but I can't quite make out what the translation page is saying..)
8/6 spring rates with 32-way adjustables...

lol takana

TANAKA takashi

CKAMC · 03-23-2007, 08:12 AM

the new silkroads look good with their remote resies.

saw that name last night on my google search and didnt think much of it

ronmcdon · 03-24-2007, 03:10 PM

Well if you're looking to actually compete, id prob look into setup that's rebound and compression adjustable, and revalved for higher spring rates. that way, you can gradually fine tune your setup more accurately, according to your preferences.

unfortunately, the such coilovers dont come cheap. I think the cheapest one out there, if its released, is that $1900 stance coilover. custom rates can be ordered too which is great. but being overeseas would make that difficult. the next would prob be the $2300 tein RE's w/ 10k/8k rates and an external resovoir. I know you said you dont like tein, and neither do i, but that is a tempting price for what if offers. after that, setups like the 3-way adjustable koni 28's would prob run you $3500 and may need to be rebuilt more often than street coilovers. most likely valved for a very wide and high range of spring rates. I think someone on this site who tracks their car competitively runs the 28's in their s13 iirc.

then again, if you're just doing occasional track driving and dd'ing your car, Id suggest getting a good set of street coilovers like the tanabe sevens with the 10f/8r rates, maybe get an additional set of 8f/6k rear swift springs, and call it a day. thats what i'm prob going to end up throwing on my s14 as well.

for reference, i don't compete. i like taking my car to the track 3-6 times a year for time trial and driving school events. I also dd my s14 in los angeles, so rates like 10/8 even with soft rebound/compression settings wouldn't be optimal imo.
i have 375f/500r (similar to 8/10) rates on my beater crx on ots konis set at full soft. it rotates excellent, but the rates are too high b/c the car hops all the time when the road surface gets a little uneven.

03-22-2007, 10:50 AM	#1
Rookie84 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA/Columbus, OH Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nismo R-tune, Cusco zero-2r, and HKS hipermax D Hey guys.. I've been doing some research on these and couldn't find too much information from experience (more drift wise) Has anyone have real world experience with these set-up listed?? I'm looking to drift and I wanted to know if anyone with experience knows how capable these coilovers are... R-tune 8k/7k 4-way front adjustable 8-way in the back Cusco zero-2r or zero-2e 8k/6k 5-way adjustable (each click makes a lot of difference) HKS hipermax D 8k/6k 30-way adjustable dampening force- (kgf) piston speed .1m/sec F rebound-198 bump-73 R rebound-121 bump-22

03-22-2007, 10:56 AM	#2
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	They all are nice. Only one I haven't had any feedback on is the R-Tune ones. They all do what you need. There isn't really a drift coilover. It just keeps bodyroll to a minimum and allows you to have better feedback/control. I have some hypermax D's I'm waiting to toss on my car. Once I get off my ass... __________________

03-22-2007, 11:10 AM	#6
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My Cusco zero2 are fine. But I don't drift. Maybe a future track day at Laguna or something. I started out with 10/8kg Cusco springs then upgraded to 6/4kg Swift Springs. Yes, each click makes a big difference. Front is 2, rear on 1. I tired rear on 2 but it makes the car too twitchy over bumps especially on crappy Cali roads. Btw, I look at quality over price because of our crappy roads. __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

03-22-2007, 04:58 PM	#9
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sold a set of Nismo r-tuned for the s14 a while back to a cali customer. Guy was pleased as hell! he kept calling/email me back from then forth. wonder how he is doing now... his name is Andy... thats all I can remember. __________________

03-22-2007, 08:13 PM	#13
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	+1 for Tanabe Sustec Pro "Sevens", especially for drifting where the higher spring rate will be appreciated. I love em for the "spirited driving" I do around town too, great ride, great adjustability (seven clicks total I believe). Got em set in the middle on the front and one click stiffer on the back. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-22-2007, 11:00 AM	#3
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If you've never drifted before, then there likely isn't anything different among those 3 choices that will make you better or worse. I would go with something with fewer adjustment settings. Something about "30-way" seems pointless.

03-22-2007, 11:05 AM	#5
initial_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mill Creek Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ cheaper price, but Stance coils will keep you satisfied for a long time

03-22-2007, 11:18 AM	#7
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nismo r-tunes are better than what you hear. the ride is pretty goddamn smooth on jersey roads. not bouncy or harsh at all. one of the locals tracks and daily drives on them. look into them if you can find a good price.

03-22-2007, 03:05 PM	#8
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 36 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	stance and KTS = best bang for the buck IMHO.

03-22-2007, 05:42 PM	#10
Clearalbino Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 37 Posts: 197 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Clearalbino Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I currently run the Cusco 2R and their fine for me when drifting. I have them set at 1 in the front and 2 in the rear. very nice coilovers.

03-22-2007, 05:56 PM	#11
keioffice Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: detox Posts: 152 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	go with stance, great quality, most of the guys run them in the mid west

03-22-2007, 07:41 PM	#12
Rookie84 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA/Columbus, OH Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for the help guys. I'm not in the stateside so stance and kts is out of question. Also, this is not my first time drifting and I'm looking to compete and win Since Yen vs. Won(korean money) rate is where I like.. I can get these coils for around 1000-1200. (I also have hook-ups for shipping) So I guess it seems like I can't go wrong with any of them.. More input would be nice, thanks!

03-22-2007, 08:39 PM	#14
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	only thing I have against tanabe is the fact they wont rebuild their coils... they want you to buy another set...what a rip. go all out! get some DG5!!! __________________

03-22-2007, 08:40 PM	#15
d*star180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My stances keep me happy. Ive been waiting to hear some feedback on the new Stance 3-ways. Those should be real good and still a good bargain for hardcore track dampers. __________________ IG: DARKSQUADNIGHTMARE DARK*SQUAD. SINCE 2005.

03-22-2007, 08:43 PM	#16
Rookie84 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA/Columbus, OH Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hahaha... I was looking at some DG5s but they come close to 1700 here. For some reason, I can't find tanabe sevens in Japan or here.. I only see tanabe fives. I also might go for the cusco zero-2e with the e-con...(yes I'm that lazy )

03-22-2007, 08:47 PM	#17
Rookie84 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA/Columbus, OH Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also, anyone heard of these???

03-22-2007, 08:53 PM	#18
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	re-badged megans?

03-22-2007, 09:09 PM	#19
AkinaSpeed Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: At a touge near you Age: 44 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I drift on nismo's R-tuned, they are awesome for lack of a better word, they were worth every penny and also so nice on the street. I've my friends cars with different coilovers and all my friends agree that my coilover are really nice. Plus when you buy them new you get a booklet with all the part numbers for everything that you can order at your local dealer. __________________

03-22-2007, 10:12 PM	#22
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dmax for hood and fenders... everything else is "meh"... havent found a price but how about yashio coils? (nm 2200 yen mark) I think tien super drift are in your budget... other than that the cusco's your looking into are a pretty good choice. Fk coils look intresting __________________

03-22-2007, 10:55 PM	#26
Rookie84 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA/Columbus, OH Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also.. do you know if s15 r-tune coils (part #5300R-RSS51) is the same as S14 or how much difference it would make??..

03-23-2007, 04:52 AM	#27
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	15 to 14 need top hat's changed __________________

03-23-2007, 08:12 AM	#29
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the new silkroads look good with their remote resies. saw that name last night on my google search and didnt think much of it __________________

03-24-2007, 03:10 PM	#30
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 90 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well if you're looking to actually compete, id prob look into setup that's rebound and compression adjustable, and revalved for higher spring rates. that way, you can gradually fine tune your setup more accurately, according to your preferences. unfortunately, the such coilovers dont come cheap. I think the cheapest one out there, if its released, is that $1900 stance coilover. custom rates can be ordered too which is great. but being overeseas would make that difficult. the next would prob be the $2300 tein RE's w/ 10k/8k rates and an external resovoir. I know you said you dont like tein, and neither do i, but that is a tempting price for what if offers. after that, setups like the 3-way adjustable koni 28's would prob run you $3500 and may need to be rebuilt more often than street coilovers. most likely valved for a very wide and high range of spring rates. I think someone on this site who tracks their car competitively runs the 28's in their s13 iirc. then again, if you're just doing occasional track driving and dd'ing your car, Id suggest getting a good set of street coilovers like the tanabe sevens with the 10f/8r rates, maybe get an additional set of 8f/6k rear swift springs, and call it a day. thats what i'm prob going to end up throwing on my s14 as well. for reference, i don't compete. i like taking my car to the track 3-6 times a year for time trial and driving school events. I also dd my s14 in los angeles, so rates like 10/8 even with soft rebound/compression settings wouldn't be optimal imo. i have 375f/500r (similar to 8/10) rates on my beater crx on ots konis set at full soft. it rotates excellent, but the rates are too high b/c the car hops all the time when the road surface gets a little uneven.