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HKsilvia · 04-13-2007, 04:59 AM

let say i bought a knock off bumper (from VIS), condition is not really good comparing to those brand name.
if i take it to a shop and they intall for me with:
- PPG paint
- a very decent paint job on the bumper only and last very long
- match my car's original color (burgandy with metallic)
- smooth out all the edges that was not perfect since its a knock off bumper
to make it simple they are going to make this knock off as good as real brand name bumper

how much you guys think i should be paying
thx for reading

Wahl 136 · 04-13-2007, 08:01 AM

That's kind of a broad question considering, I think the price will be high no matter were you go. But factor in the reputation of the shop your going to and location. No matter what expect to pay a lot.

HKsilvia · 04-13-2007, 03:03 PM

thx...but how high? i had my price quote already but the number is kinda rip off, just want to see how u all are expecting to pay for what i had described

Dousan_PG · 04-13-2007, 03:51 PM

random number
600 bucks
paint and prep is where the money is at
ppg isnt cheap paint and to match your 'custom' color
then the install hours it takes

600-900 would be a safe guess

or u could go to the paint shop and ask how much to get it installed and painted.
then asking people online.
dont be scared.
nothing wrong with asking shops for quotes.

McRussellPants · 04-13-2007, 03:54 PM

paint job that lasts a long time is the least of your worries with fiberglass.

420sx · 04-13-2007, 03:56 PM

hmmm do it urself. total cost with paint bout 250

DJ_Sunrise · 04-13-2007, 04:08 PM

im sorry, im a bit unclear on this.. but.. how are you going to match the metallic flake again? yea. yea. oh. yea. i hope somebody remembers the ratio put in, and all the fine details to match the metallic.. dont worry about price, worry if it will even come out looking right...

GSXRJJordan · 04-13-2007, 04:17 PM

^^^ Yeah, I'm with DJ_Sunrise on this one... why not take it to the person that painted the rest of the car? That way, you have a better chance of it coming out the same.

From my experience with painting sportbikes, I'd say to take a bumper to a paint shop and have them put in an hour or so smoothing it, then spray it with the best paint, then install it, would be ~ $600... definitely not cheaper than $500. The paint alone is about $300 (primer, 1pt base, 1pt metallic/color, 1pt clear), and with a job like that it's safe to match the paint cost for labor. I'm guessing you went to a reputable shop and they quoted you a grand.

driftmayniak · 04-13-2007, 04:21 PM

don't buy a knock off your better of spending the money and having it done rigtht

if you don't the only one who's going to regret it is you

a good job probably around 500 Remember if you primer it your self the cost will reduce and don't have it on your car , shops charge to cover sides where you don't want paint in .

azndoc · 04-13-2007, 06:34 PM

^^^ remember not all 240sx people are baller otherwise everyone would be rocking authentic vertex or bn sports kit. don't knock on people who want to spend on knockoff body kits if it's all they can afford.

koukimonster139 · 04-13-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ Yeah, I'm with DJ_Sunrise on this one... why not take it to the person that painted the rest of the car? That way, you have a better chance of it coming out the same.

says the guy with a red car and silver aero haha

on a serious note mr. OP, the fitment/quality of the knockoff is gonna bite you in the ass when you have a shop install it and paint it. Shoulda got the real shit, might have been cheaper in the end...

Mr. H · 04-14-2007, 12:40 AM

do you consider Origin to be a knock off? Cause I was looking at kits from ED and VIS and the prices were roughly the same (for ED and Origin anyway, forgot what VIS was priced.)

HKsilvia · 04-14-2007, 04:40 AM

thx all for the inputs, now i know what to do next. the shop charge me for 800 and i bargain it to 700 (by knowing them for so long), however i need to replace my innerfender (the black "cover" on top of the wheel that prevent sand/rocks hitting the suspension, yea yea im sux in terminology, spelling as well) that gonna cost another 150 with labor.

farewell to my tax return

and my next paycheck......
oh shit, and i need to buy a set of signal light!
gaaaah !!!!!! ^*%^**$&^&#@$%)@

diomedes · 04-14-2007, 08:11 AM

damn that's a lot of money to fix and respray your bumper. I was hope that it'll be less for you, but if I know auto body shops will, they do charge for a pretty penny.

TiNMAN · 04-14-2007, 01:27 PM

b u t t s e k s .

HKsilvia · 04-14-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by diomedes

damn that's a lot of money to fix and respray your bumper. I was hope that it'll be less for you, but if I know auto body shops will, they do charge for a pretty penny.

yea, they do, the guy gave me 3 choice: $400, $600, $800. the price determine the quiality, i was like "......."

babowc · 04-14-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKsilvia

thx all for the inputs, now i know what to do next. the shop charge me for 800 and i bargain it to 700 (by knowing them for so long), however i need to replace my innerfender (the black "cover" on top of the wheel that prevent sand/rocks hitting the suspension, yea yea im sux in terminology, spelling as well) that gonna cost another 150 with labor.

farewell to my tax return

and my next paycheck......
oh shit, and i need to buy a set of signal light!
gaaaah !!!!!! ^*%^**$&^&#@$%)@

ARE you serious?
$150 including labor? (WHAT LABOR?!) for installing a FENDERLINER?
You cannot be serious.

keep in mind though, thats just a quote.. i think they can change that as well, until you have it on paper.

***FaLKoN240*** · 04-14-2007, 06:57 PM

Install the fenderliner yourself. It's not that hard.

HKsilvia · 04-14-2007, 11:14 PM

yea...it was said $50 each side and 0.5 hour per side...

so its like $100 for parts and the rest labor

sblack13 · 04-14-2007, 11:20 PM

that shop is pulling your leg, $150 for installing fender extensions is a beyond a joke.

thejapino · 04-14-2007, 11:33 PM

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that shop is pulling your leg, $150 for installing fender extensions is a beyond a joke.

Naw, you're thinking those little bumper extensions on the stock chuki bumper. He's talking about the fenderliner, the one that everybody takes OFF the car! I'd give them to you for FREE and install them for $20 if i didn't throw mines in the trash!

Mr. H · 04-16-2007, 07:16 PM

ok whoever left me negative feed back for my post, you could have at least answered my question while being a jackass, simple yes or no

Jefferson · 04-16-2007, 09:21 PM

I would probally opt for not putting the fenderliner in, Chances are your going to rip it out later if you lower the car OR try to find someone that might still have theirs or go to a junkyard and pull them off another car. They really are not that expensive used

azndoc · 04-17-2007, 04:44 PM

^^^^ true that. Majority of the people on here don't run them. I don't because the shit would be scraping against my tires all day everyday. Save the $150 and just rip the suckas out. Then go to the titty bar and spend the $150. Take pics and post em'. Have fun.

HKsilvia · 04-19-2007, 05:43 AM

but will it let derbits and rocks hitting the suspension? im using coilover tho...o dunno is it save that way?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. H

ok whoever left me negative feed back for my post, you could have at least answered my question while being a jackass, simple yes or no

yea ..its happens. sometimes its too hard for some ppl to be nice

ladiesman8527 · 04-19-2007, 07:26 AM

if youre running coilovers and still have fender liners, then youre not low enough. rip them things out and save the money. the worst thats going to happen is that some dirt will get in the threads of your coilovers which can be a pain in the ass, but it wont ruin anything.

Cash · 04-19-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

^^^^ true that. Majority of the people on here don't run them. I don't because the shit would be scraping against my tires all day everyday. Save the $150 and just rip the suckas out. Then go to the titty bar and spend the $150. Take pics and post em'. Have fun.

I found out recently that you're not allowed to take pictures at strip clubs. wtf is that all about?? haha.

*ManoNegra* · 04-19-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HKsilvia

but will it let derbits and rocks hitting the suspension? im using coilover tho...o dunno is it save that way?

wow, if you're worried about shit like this then modding cars isn't for you. Sell your 240 and get a civic. I'm half joking and mean no disrepect to you... but seriously wtf?

clean_s14 (VIP ed.) · 04-20-2007, 04:00 PM

in general, labor costs more than anything. take in consideration, you are pickin' up a kit by VIS which usually fits like crap. from a reputable shop expect to pay 1100, 700 is a steal...

04-13-2007, 04:59 AM	#1
HKsilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: around the corners Age: 41 Posts: 354 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how much should i be looking at let say i bought a knock off bumper (from VIS), condition is not really good comparing to those brand name. if i take it to a shop and they intall for me with: - PPG paint - a very decent paint job on the bumper only and last very long - match my car's original color (burgandy with metallic) - smooth out all the edges that was not perfect since its a knock off bumper to make it simple they are going to make this knock off as good as real brand name bumper how much you guys think i should be paying thx for reading __________________ forum 101 - be supportive

04-13-2007, 03:03 PM	#3
HKsilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: around the corners Age: 41 Posts: 354 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thx...but how high? i had my price quote already but the number is kinda rip off, just want to see how u all are expecting to pay for what i had described __________________ forum 101 - be supportive

04-13-2007, 03:51 PM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	random number 600 bucks paint and prep is where the money is at ppg isnt cheap paint and to match your 'custom' color then the install hours it takes 600-900 would be a safe guess or u could go to the paint shop and ask how much to get it installed and painted. then asking people online. dont be scared. nothing wrong with asking shops for quotes. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

04-13-2007, 03:56 PM	#6
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmmm do it urself. total cost with paint bout 250 __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

04-13-2007, 04:17 PM	#8
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Yeah, I'm with DJ_Sunrise on this one... why not take it to the person that painted the rest of the car? That way, you have a better chance of it coming out the same. From my experience with painting sportbikes, I'd say to take a bumper to a paint shop and have them put in an hour or so smoothing it, then spray it with the best paint, then install it, would be ~ $600... definitely not cheaper than $500. The paint alone is about $300 (primer, 1pt base, 1pt metallic/color, 1pt clear), and with a job like that it's safe to match the paint cost for labor. I'm guessing you went to a reputable shop and they quoted you a grand. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-13-2007, 08:01 AM	#2
Wahl 136 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Not Cali! :-P Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's kind of a broad question considering, I think the price will be high no matter were you go. But factor in the reputation of the shop your going to and location. No matter what expect to pay a lot.

04-13-2007, 03:54 PM	#5
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	paint job that lasts a long time is the least of your worries with fiberglass.

04-13-2007, 04:08 PM	#7
DJ_Sunrise Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im sorry, im a bit unclear on this.. but.. how are you going to match the metallic flake again? yea. yea. oh. yea. i hope somebody remembers the ratio put in, and all the fine details to match the metallic.. dont worry about price, worry if it will even come out looking right...

04-13-2007, 04:21 PM	#9
driftmayniak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: los Angeles Age: 41 Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	don't buy a knock off your better of spending the money and having it done rigtht if you don't the only one who's going to regret it is you a good job probably around 500 Remember if you primer it your self the cost will reduce and don't have it on your car , shops charge to cover sides where you don't want paint in . __________________ SHFT_

04-13-2007, 06:34 PM	#10
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	^^^ remember not all 240sx people are baller otherwise everyone would be rocking authentic vertex or bn sports kit. don't knock on people who want to spend on knockoff body kits if it's all they can afford.

04-14-2007, 12:40 AM	#12
Mr. H Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Columbia, MO Age: 39 Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do you consider Origin to be a knock off? Cause I was looking at kits from ED and VIS and the prices were roughly the same (for ED and Origin anyway, forgot what VIS was priced.)

04-14-2007, 04:40 AM	#13
HKsilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: around the corners Age: 41 Posts: 354 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thx all for the inputs, now i know what to do next. the shop charge me for 800 and i bargain it to 700 (by knowing them for so long), however i need to replace my innerfender (the black "cover" on top of the wheel that prevent sand/rocks hitting the suspension, yea yea im sux in terminology, spelling as well) that gonna cost another 150 with labor. farewell to my tax return and my next paycheck...... oh shit, and i need to buy a set of signal light! gaaaah !!!!!! ^%^*$&^&#@$%)@ __________________ forum 101 - be supportive

04-14-2007, 08:11 AM	#14
diomedes Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Norcal Posts: 720 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	damn that's a lot of money to fix and respray your bumper. I was hope that it'll be less for you, but if I know auto body shops will, they do charge for a pretty penny.

04-14-2007, 01:27 PM	#15
TiNMAN Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NorCal, East Bay Favorite Color: Green Age: 39 Posts: 3,940 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	b u t t s e k s . __________________ I AM LEGIT.

04-14-2007, 06:57 PM	#18
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Install the fenderliner yourself. It's not that hard. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

04-14-2007, 11:14 PM	#19
HKsilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: around the corners Age: 41 Posts: 354 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea...it was said $50 each side and 0.5 hour per side... so its like $100 for parts and the rest labor __________________ forum 101 - be supportive

04-14-2007, 11:20 PM	#20
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	that shop is pulling your leg, $150 for installing fender extensions is a beyond a joke.

04-16-2007, 07:16 PM	#22
Mr. H Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Columbia, MO Age: 39 Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok whoever left me negative feed back for my post, you could have at least answered my question while being a jackass, simple yes or no

04-16-2007, 09:21 PM	#23
Jefferson Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would probally opt for not putting the fenderliner in, Chances are your going to rip it out later if you lower the car OR try to find someone that might still have theirs or go to a junkyard and pull them off another car. They really are not that expensive used

04-17-2007, 04:44 PM	#24
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	^^^^ true that. Majority of the people on here don't run them. I don't because the shit would be scraping against my tires all day everyday. Save the $150 and just rip the suckas out. Then go to the titty bar and spend the $150. Take pics and post em'. Have fun.

04-19-2007, 07:26 AM	#26
ladiesman8527 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Collierville, TN Age: 38 Posts: 429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if youre running coilovers and still have fender liners, then youre not low enough. rip them things out and save the money. the worst thats going to happen is that some dirt will get in the threads of your coilovers which can be a pain in the ass, but it wont ruin anything.

04-20-2007, 04:00 PM	#29
clean_s14 (VIP ed.) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	in general, labor costs more than anything. take in consideration, you are pickin' up a kit by VIS which usually fits like crap. from a reputable shop expect to pay 1100, 700 is a steal...