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iRun · 10-01-2007, 05:06 PM

Ordered this from More-japan on Thursday and the UPS man nocked on my door this morining. Just wanted to post up some pics. Its the SARD Torque Control Valve, regulates the diameter of the exhaust piping. TCV has smaller piping diameter to give you torque at low rpm and opens up to give you more power up top. Im very impressed with the quality of the product. Im planning on installing it this coming weekend when Im free and Ill keep you guys updated.

Nikeboy355 · 10-01-2007, 05:18 PM

Looks like that fits where the stock cat goes...

How much and is there any controls or does it just work by itself?

5t341tH · 10-01-2007, 05:45 PM

i believe that one works by itself. apexi makes something similar to this and you can control it

iRun · 10-01-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikeboy355

Looks like that fits where the stock cat goes...

How much and is there any controls or does it just work by itself?

Yeah it basically bolts up where the stock cat is. It works off of exhaust backpressure. There is a spring loaded valve aand when exhaust pressures reach a certain limit, then the valve opens up releasing the backpressure.

burnsauto · 10-01-2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5t341tH

i believe that one works by itself. apexi makes something similar to this and you can control it

yeah ive seen that thing before, its got a throttle cable setup on it (or something along those lines..) i was wondering how this setup worked....does the line go into the cars interior and you manually change the valves position, or does it run into the engine band and works off the throttle body...

driftenthusiast · 10-01-2007, 06:16 PM

I have one friend with this, he says he felt a difference, but you can hear a rattle from inside it at low RPM.

gotta240 · 10-01-2007, 06:26 PM

How Much?! .

iRun · 10-01-2007, 06:44 PM

I paid $230 for it.

5t341tH · 10-01-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnsauto

yeah ive seen that thing before, its got a throttle cable setup on it (or something along those lines..) i was wondering how this setup worked....does the line go into the cars interior and you manually change the valves position, or does it run into the engine band and works off the throttle body...

yea it goes into the interior and u can pull? it so it opens up

Jung918 · 10-01-2007, 08:48 PM

Let us know how it goes. I was planning on getting one also.
I think some of you guys are mistaken this for the apexi one. That ones uses a cable that you route inside of the car to adjust the valve.
This sard product uses a spring system inside. When there is more pressure it opens up more.

Just FYI, Kure Motorsports is the US importer for sard.

Ian · 10-01-2007, 08:53 PM

Kure International actually

I've driven a car with one...I couldn't tell you if it did anything but rattle and help for noise at low throttle...

KwKouki · 10-01-2007, 09:14 PM

I was under the impression that the Apexi one was for exhaust note not performance

bloodangels13 · 10-01-2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftenthusiast

I have one friend with this, he says he felt a difference, but you can hear a rattle from inside it at low RPM.

that would be me.... i ran a 3'' test pipe before i could tell it made a nice difference... i drove it both ways the same day i changed to the sard tcv.. for daily the rattle is a lil annoyin to some but i got use to it... the increace in low end punch and slightly quicker spool make it all worth it
i've ran mine for about a year now with no issues also it did quit my car down a noticable amount ... when i first ran the TCV i ran a 3'' apexi N1 now im running a dual n1 and its even more of a difference

Jung918 · 10-01-2007, 09:26 PM

^ Kure needs to make up their mind because their websie is http://www.kuremotorsports.com/

PhilthyS13 · 10-01-2007, 11:21 PM

I've had one of these for over 6 months. I'm really happy with it. I had a 3.7 inch exhaust before with a test pipe, so it was pretty loud. I got a new 3 inch exhaust with this, so I can't make a pepsi challenge comparison, but I am really happy with it. It is quieter at low rpms, and it does open up when you hit the gas.

It's basically a 3 inch mushroom shaped plunger with a 1-1.5 inch hole in the center, so at low rpm is remains closed (exhaust passes through the small hole). You can see it best in the bottom pic. When you step on it, the plunger moves back, opening up to the full width of the pipe.

It does rattle slightly, but that's just when warming up the car and the rpms are up a little - like 2kish. It sounds like finger cymbals that belly dancers use. Not very bad and only noticeable to you.

It's rebuildable, too.

jobestudios · 10-02-2007, 12:35 AM

post pics looking inside please

I wonder what system the mines r34 uses, looks completely different, and computer controlled.

!Zar! · 10-02-2007, 09:15 AM

I've had this for ages.

It's a waste of money. All it does is quiets your car down a little.

Let alone, it's pointless to have any backpressure on a turbo car.

After time the soot and age will make the plunger stick.

Shit is weak.

iRun · 10-02-2007, 10:05 AM

Here's a pic of the inside. When exhaust pressure builds up, the valve opens and exhaust gas is allowed to flow through the hole as well as around the sides. Here's the link to the full description:

http://www.more-japan.com/SARD-Torqu...s-p-16892.html

steve shadows · 10-02-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iRun

Yeah it basically bolts up where the stock cat is. It works off of exhaust backpressure. There is a spring loaded valve aand when exhaust pressures reach a certain limit, then the valve opens up releasing the backpressure.

that sounds like a horrible nightmare.

no thanks

smelly240 · 10-02-2007, 11:27 AM

I'm not sure what kind of car i would put this on... but i know it wouldnt be mine.

I have a 3in hiflow cat and that quieted my car down some (til the ewg opens anyway) and it made it sound deeper - where before it sounded snarly and mean... so if u want the car quieter just get a cat (i got a cat because i need it to get my car registered as a collectible - must meet certain amount of emissions regulations

)

azndoc · 10-02-2007, 12:03 PM

I've always known it to be Kure International. Their great people. Dealt with them alot over the past year.

Both the website

www.kuremotorsports.com
and
www.kure-international.com

both websites works and lead to the company.

Nikeboy355 · 10-02-2007, 01:30 PM

I agree with Steve... This is not a good thing...

Koopa Troopa · 10-02-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KwKouki

I was under the impression that the Apexi one was for exhaust note not performance

You are correct

Jung918 · 10-02-2007, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndoc

I've always known it to be Kure International. Their great people. Dealt with them alot over the past year.

Both the website

www.kuremotorsports.com
and
www.kure-international.com

both websites works and lead to the company.

Do you have an account with them?

iRun · 10-03-2007, 05:21 PM

There's alot of hater's but I wouldnt knock a product before youve tried it. A few members on here have run this with sucess and my cousin actually runs this on his 240 and he likes it. So I will install it and keep you guys posted.

GSXRJJordan · 10-03-2007, 05:42 PM

The only way I'd put up with any additional rattles (especially in the cop-unfriendly zone of idle-3000rpm) would be if it could spool a GT3071 or TD06-20G a few hundred RPM faster... otherwise I'll just stick with a $30 straight 3" test pipe into my Apexi WS Noir. Let us know how you like it, and what kind of setup you're running.

!Zar! · 10-04-2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

I've had this for ages.

It's a waste of money. All it does is quiets your car down a little.

Let alone, it's pointless to have any backpressure on a turbo car.

After time the soot and age will make the plunger stick.

Shit is weak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iRun

There's alot of hater's but I wouldnt knock a product before youve tried it. A few members on here have run this with sucess and my cousin actually runs this on his 240 and he likes it. So I will install it and keep you guys posted.

You Fail.

Your friend is just hurt over the fact that his butt dyno is the only thing that changed when he installed that.

steve shadows · 10-04-2007, 11:02 AM

oooooh I love butt dynos!

misfitsfreak81 · 10-04-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung918

Do you have an account with them?

I do. Do you need something? let me know.

mike
North Shore Performance Auto

EAT Motorsports · 12-06-2007, 12:24 PM

SARD TCV is on sale for $160 these are best to quiet your car down and give you some backpressure out of boost... less drone less poping with that 3inch exhaust. It will give you some low end and isn't much more expensive than what some test pipes are going for...

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=167288

10-01-2007, 05:06 PM	#1
iRun Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CARSON. Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SARD Torque Control Valve Ordered this from More-japan on Thursday and the UPS man nocked on my door this morining. Just wanted to post up some pics. Its the SARD Torque Control Valve, regulates the diameter of the exhaust piping. TCV has smaller piping diameter to give you torque at low rpm and opens up to give you more power up top. Im very impressed with the quality of the product. Im planning on installing it this coming weekend when Im free and Ill keep you guys updated.

10-01-2007, 05:18 PM	#2
Nikeboy355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 45 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like that fits where the stock cat goes... How much and is there any controls or does it just work by itself? __________________ http://respectvolkracing.blogspot.com/

10-01-2007, 05:45 PM	#3
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 36 Posts: 2,787 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i believe that one works by itself. apexi makes something similar to this and you can control it __________________ lexus baby

10-01-2007, 06:16 PM	#6
driftenthusiast Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oakton Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have one friend with this, he says he felt a difference, but you can hear a rattle from inside it at low RPM. __________________ nissan tech

10-01-2007, 08:48 PM	#10
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Let us know how it goes. I was planning on getting one also. I think some of you guys are mistaken this for the apexi one. That ones uses a cable that you route inside of the car to adjust the valve. This sard product uses a spring system inside. When there is more pressure it opens up more. Just FYI, Kure Motorsports is the US importer for sard. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

10-01-2007, 06:26 PM	#7
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	How Much?! .

10-01-2007, 06:44 PM	#8
iRun Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CARSON. Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I paid $230 for it.

10-01-2007, 09:14 PM	#12
KwKouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Key West, FL Age: 44 Posts: 2,212 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I was under the impression that the Apexi one was for exhaust note not performance __________________

10-01-2007, 09:26 PM	#14
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^ Kure needs to make up their mind because their websie is http://www.kuremotorsports.com/ __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

10-01-2007, 11:21 PM	#15
PhilthyS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: N/A Age: 46 Posts: 345 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I've had one of these for over 6 months. I'm really happy with it. I had a 3.7 inch exhaust before with a test pipe, so it was pretty loud. I got a new 3 inch exhaust with this, so I can't make a pepsi challenge comparison, but I am really happy with it. It is quieter at low rpms, and it does open up when you hit the gas. It's basically a 3 inch mushroom shaped plunger with a 1-1.5 inch hole in the center, so at low rpm is remains closed (exhaust passes through the small hole). You can see it best in the bottom pic. When you step on it, the plunger moves back, opening up to the full width of the pipe. It does rattle slightly, but that's just when warming up the car and the rpms are up a little - like 2kish. It sounds like finger cymbals that belly dancers use. Not very bad and only noticeable to you. It's rebuildable, too.

10-02-2007, 12:35 AM	#16
jobestudios Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bellingham Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	post pics looking inside please I wonder what system the mines r34 uses, looks completely different, and computer controlled. __________________ -Jackson.Vaughn.Photography-

10-02-2007, 09:15 AM	#17
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I've had this for ages. It's a waste of money. All it does is quiets your car down a little. Let alone, it's pointless to have any backpressure on a turbo car. After time the soot and age will make the plunger stick. Shit is weak. __________________

10-02-2007, 10:05 AM	#18
iRun Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CARSON. Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's a pic of the inside. When exhaust pressure builds up, the valve opens and exhaust gas is allowed to flow through the hole as well as around the sides. Here's the link to the full description: http://www.more-japan.com/SARD-Torqu...s-p-16892.html

10-02-2007, 11:27 AM	#20
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 47 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I'm not sure what kind of car i would put this on... but i know it wouldnt be mine. I have a 3in hiflow cat and that quieted my car down some (til the ewg opens anyway) and it made it sound deeper - where before it sounded snarly and mean... so if u want the car quieter just get a cat (i got a cat because i need it to get my car registered as a collectible - must meet certain amount of emissions regulations ) __________________ HREs on a S13 - check, 6262 - check, Girlfriend.... - nope

10-02-2007, 12:03 PM	#21
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	I've always known it to be Kure International. Their great people. Dealt with them alot over the past year. Both the website www.kuremotorsports.com and www.kure-international.com both websites works and lead to the company.

10-02-2007, 01:30 PM	#22
Nikeboy355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 45 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree with Steve... This is not a good thing... __________________ http://respectvolkracing.blogspot.com/

10-03-2007, 05:21 PM	#25
iRun Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CARSON. Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There's alot of hater's but I wouldnt knock a product before youve tried it. A few members on here have run this with sucess and my cousin actually runs this on his 240 and he likes it. So I will install it and keep you guys posted.

10-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#26
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	The only way I'd put up with any additional rattles (especially in the cop-unfriendly zone of idle-3000rpm) would be if it could spool a GT3071 or TD06-20G a few hundred RPM faster... otherwise I'll just stick with a $30 straight 3" test pipe into my Apexi WS Noir. Let us know how you like it, and what kind of setup you're running. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-04-2007, 11:02 AM	#28
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	oooooh I love butt dynos! __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

12-06-2007, 12:24 PM	#30
EAT Motorsports Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Age: 18 Posts: 242 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	SARD TCV is on sale for $160 these are best to quiet your car down and give you some backpressure out of boost... less drone less poping with that 3inch exhaust. It will give you some low end and isn't much more expensive than what some test pipes are going for... http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=167288 __________________